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and you quoted NONE.lolYou quoted ONE that has to do with the topic: you have not shown where Paul told all the churches for the women to shut up.
Do you think ALL cultural customs are required today? Head coverings? No braided hair or jewelry? How about shaking the dust from your sandals?
And your thoughts on the subject, Rumely?
Culture does play a part. Look at the context. What was the condition Paul was addressing.God's word stands the test of time regardless of cultures. I am sure that you are an expert on ancient Greek culture but Paul made it quite clear that women are to remain silent in church.
Yes, look at the context. Paul was addressing a specific problem.Right....the Corinthian churches....Try to explain why he never said that to the other churches.
Have you ever thought that maybe God understands the nature of male and female better than you or I and decided that this was better for the church as a whole? I mean just because our corrupt society has become feminized doesn't mean that we can ignore certain biblical truths. I am not dead set either way on this subject and actually I don't really care either way about this subject because I think you can make a case for both sides BUT we must be careful what we pick and choose from scripture to believe and what to toss out because then you have opened up a Pandora's Box.Culture does play a part. Look at the context. What was the condition Paul was addressing.
Actually I prefer to err on the side of scripture instead of on the side of "culture". You keep saying this is only for the Corinthians. So let me see....since Paul didn't address his epistles specifically to Rusty then Rusty doesn't have to adhere to that epistle?? Or does Rusty just pick and choose from each epistle what he likes and discards the rest as "culture"? Tell me why that this teaching of Paul should not be applied to all Christians? What formula do we use to determine exactly which teachings of Paul are for all children of God and which ones are specific? Tell me why I am wrong if I choose to believe this particular teaching and apply it in my life?Amen! Context is everything.
Sadly, one of the root causes of Christian division and denominationalism is out of context universal application of matter God was addressing in a specific cases.
You study to see what the real context is before saying this applies to me.Actually I prefer to err on the side of scripture instead of on the side of "culture". You keep saying this is only for the Corinthians. So let me see....since Paul didn't address his epistles specifically to Rusty then Rusty doesn't have to adhere to that epistle?? Or does Rusty just pick and choose from each epistle what he likes and discards the rest as "culture"? Tell me why that this teaching of Paul should not be applied to all Christians? What formula do we use to determine exactly which teachings of Paul are for all children of God and which ones are specific? Tell me why I am wrong if I choose to believe this particular teaching and apply it in my life?
As I said before I prefer to err on the side of scripture instead of "culture" which by the way changes quite often but I don't think God's word does. Can you tell me where I am wrong if I choose to apply this particular teaching to my life?You study to see what the real context is before saying this applies to me.
I'm reading a book about how we misinterpret Scripture based on our culture.
[Misreading Scripture with Western Eyes: Removing Cultural Blinders to Better Understand the Bibleby E. Randolph Richard]
There are always things the 'go without saying.' When we read and do not the culture, we substitute what in our culture 'goes without saying.' In other words, we substitute our culture for the author's.
What??@ Grappler: do you believe in strict adherence to the 'law' (scripture) else punishment be administered immediately?
Thanks.
Well ofcourse it is possible that she is lying but that is between her and God. But as far as female preachers....I prefer to stand with scripture on that issue and no one on here has still been able to say that I am in the wrong for believing that women should not pastor or preach in a church. I find it amusing how people get all fussy over this issue. If you want to attend a church that has a woman pastor that is your right...it is my right to say that I don't think it is right.LOL Banarenth, Good rant ^_^
I'm just going to case in point here.
Joyce Meyers is a preacher, she says she talks to God. Enough said, if you believe she is telling the truth
when she says she talks to God there is your evidence, according to her, God hasn't told her to shhhh yet. Unless you are prepared to jump out and call Joyce Meyers a liar?