Agreed. MY church is 2 miles away from Stetson University. I can not begin to tell you how many conversations I have had with college students who know everything there is to know in this world.
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Agreed. MY church is 2 miles away from Stetson University. I can not begin to tell you how many conversations I have had with college students who know everything there is to know in this world.
I would have asked, "How do you know what you have never experienced? I believe in the One who experienced what REALLY happens, and He said otherwise..."
MM
Hey, how did you get Junior's phone number? That's where I got that beat up, rusted out old Ford for coon hunting...
MM
HAH! I didn't wait till I was in university to declare I know everything. In high school, I knew MORE than everything...I knew things that just ain't!
MM
Dad, "I'm not religious, don't give me that religious stuff!"
Me, "What happens to a person after they die?"
Dad, "Worm food!"
Me, "Then that is your religion".
(A person's view of the afterlife, pretty much reveals their religion.)
The real funny thing is that once I was speaking with 3 of the science students (freshmen) and they all agree that for a theory to be a proven fact it had to be "repeated".
I simply asked them to repeat evolution and when would they be able to show it to me. The silence was deafening.
It was in the yellow pages under "Used Cars".
No wonder he wears worn out overalls when he's paying for yellow page ads...
Yes, that is not nice. Especially if it is a family member. My younger sister is an atheist too. There also any conversations are fruitless.
And I had to look up "vociferous".
Ahh, I see! Thank you very much for the reply. I really thought that you meant me.
Thanks for clarifying!
The password thing however remains unclear ;-)
alxb
I'm not much of a fan of the "give-up-n-pray" for them mentality. I guess I'm too much a fighter...at least up to the point they say they don't want conversations about any of that part of life. They are then on their own. My half brother is like that, which tells me that he's fully willing to accept the responsibility for what he has chosen to believe. I pray for him and that wife of his every now and then, but don't know if that wall exterior some people build up about themselves are of the variety that the Lord will also leave them be.
(shurg)
I dunno...
MM
I guess I should also fight more...
Rather than give up and pray, how about respectfully engage in love?
Do you have any heart for the people you are talking with? What would you consider a positive or beneficial discussion, and what would the results be whether immediate, near term, within the lives of those persons, or in their final disposition?
It sounds to me like you are playing 'stump the atheist', and only accepting evidence that supports your position, and rejecting all else, along with whom ever puts it forward.
Do you feel good about asking a question they cannot answer to your personal satisfaction?
Do you show respect for your prospective brother?
Do you ever get around to man's need for Christ, His love for all men, and His provision to supply the spiritual need and each?
Actually, I feel fantastic about it. You see, I told that Gary fella that I'm engaging him on all this because I love them too much to not say anything, and at least give opportunity to first ask them about their journey that got them to where they are, and then begin discussing reasons for faith, and finding out why they disbelieve in order to embrace such things as evolutionary bias and non-science.
There's so much you simply didn't see in my conversations with them. You only saw a small little bit of the overall discussion. I was simply sharing with others some of the stronger reasonings that strike at the root of atheism's lies and deceptions. They appeared hostile to you, perhaps, but only because you never saw the entire discussion we all had. I didn't see any reason to re-post all that since most people's reading time is limited.
So, don't write me off because of appearances. Take what I said about my overall approach and at least give me some credit for having already done what you stated as what you consider the better approach. Already done all that. I've mentioned all this before, but you seem to have overlooked it in leu of whatever campaign you're on. I'd appreciate you considering this, if you would.
MM
What he doesn't realize is that if the Lord still desires to deal with him, being so hard-hearted about it can be a driver for what level of hardship He may push against your brother. His expletives may be a cover for some other deeper hurts he's too "manly" to admit to his sister. The hard exterior shell can be broken, and my, my; when that's shattered, the resulting thankful heart thereafter can be a beautiful thing to behold. Pray, love and wait to see what the Lord does.
MM
The password thing is a running joke. Crossnote came up with that after I said someone else could contact if they knew my password "Br549."
BR549 is the phone number that Jr. Samples gave out on the old Hew Ha show in the 60', from his used car lot.
I understand! I have been there and done it as well. I hope it turns out well for you and your friend!
My own heart is that I tend to keep coming back to those that wan me to disapear because I love them and the thought of what might happen is overbearing at times.
Blessing my brother MM!
My dear brother Siloam....I do not have a dog in this hunt, but do ya think you might want to rethink your questions?
I would suggest that if you do fight, remember who you are in combat with.
Any lost man is already in fellowship with Satan because he is the prince of the power of the air.
Any time you witness to anyone......may I suggest that you always keep Jesus in front of that person and focus on what that lost person's problem is......SIN.
A man is lost because he refuses to accept Christ? WHY is that. Because the lost man loves his sin and Satan uses sin to control the lost man.
Bless your efforts my friend!