Polly, none of us our perfect and not ever sinning. We all have our own issues. I'm just trying to get you to look at your issues (the way I try to look at mine) and at least acknowledge them so you can work on it. I know we need God to help us because we aren't strong enough to do it on our own. Just don't turn a blind eye to it and say oh well. As you grow in your faith, you won't WANT to do anything displeasing to God and that is when you will be remorseful/repentant when you do.
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Polly thinks that you have to do works to get saved as does Ixoxe_8. Look higher up at her comments. Someone needs to be saved by faith in what Christ did first, to even be able to be changed. People want a physical change from her and yet everything here is really a spiritual battle. The physical is nothing. It is the spiritual that matters.
Well I think the problem is she has a faulty view of Christianity and God. She did come out of witchcraft so her mind might still be funky. We need a new thread explaining the gospel to her!! Because from what I see in her posts, she doesn't get it at all!
it reads: sōzō egō ou ..
which reads: saving me not ..
if it were meant to say: "He saved us not" ..
then it would read: "auto sōzō auto ou" ..
don't tell me the translators do not know the difference between ego and auto either ..
it reads: sōzō egō ou ..
which reads: saving me not ..
if it were meant to say "He saved us not" ..
then it would read: "auto sōzō auto ou" ..
Ceile De, I am talking about a spiritual battle, rather than a physical one. The Pharisees were always trying to fight a physical battle, it was all about behavior. Jesus it about the Spirit of God and fighting the spiritual with His Spirit. If someone does not understand the gospel and if they aren't saved, how can they fight the spiritual warfare. They are then only fighting a physical battle and in this case it is one they don't even want to fight.
I do too... I just think it gets harsh but I don't know everything.
I am not getting your point. I asked how can you say that it is righteous works we have done, when clearly it says not by righteous works we have done.
I already corrected you on your poor interpretation ..
so that is a lie ..
It is a little harsh at times. Is Polly still around?
This is a bit tricky... I get a feeling that you guys except ixoye and AllieWi are saying that I must give up Harry Potter, anime, anime fashion, any music, and Severus Snape to be saved... But guess what? Harry Potter, anime, cartoons, any show, any music, and Severus Snape are not sins or sinful... Ask God. And Severus is still here, and God did not destroy him...
You haven't corrected me. You say it isn't by works and then everything you say is that it is by works. If I am misunderstanding you, explain it so that I can understand because most of your posts seem to only talk about salvation by works as I see it.
it clearly says belief and works are both needed ..
Hbr 5:9 And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation,
WHY does Paul say by "obedience" and not belief if it also was not a factor ???
Not that you must. But you should.
Polly, please explain to me in detail what the Gospel is.
all sin is "that which rebels against God's will" ..
things in themselves are not sinful, it is what WE do with them which is sin ..
so IF Severus is put ahead of God, then it is sin ..
If Severus was a "form of deception" by a demon, then it is sin ..
my advice is for you to "test the spirit/tuplea" ..
if not from God, then there is only one other side of the spiritual realm which it falls ..
I already tested Severus, and it's from me... From my mind.
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I am more than happy to talk to you about any verses you like, but I asked you about a specific verse and I would like you to please respond to that verse first since it is talking about not being saved by righteous works. Thank you.