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Must one Hold to the trinity to be saved?
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most of my beliefs come from my upbringing between Baptist and AoG.
Baptists and Assemblies of God are Trinitarians. You aren't.
The terms "Trinity" and "persons" as related to the Godhead, while not found in the Scriptures, are words in harmony with Scripture, whereby we may convey to others our immediate understanding of the doctrine of Christ respecting the Being of God, as distinguished from "gods many and lords many." We therefore may speak with propriety of the Lord our God who is One Lord, as a trinity or as one Being of three persons, and still be absolutely scriptural.
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where did i say i did not believe God is Triune?Baptists and Assemblies of God are Trinitarians. You aren't.
The terms "Trinity" and "persons" as related to the Godhead, while not found in the Scriptures, are words in harmony with Scripture, whereby we may convey to others our immediate understanding of the doctrine of Christ respecting the Being of God, as distinguished from "gods many and lords many." We therefore may speak with propriety of the Lord our God who is One Lord, as a trinity or as one Being of three persons, and still be absolutely scriptural.
i said i do not use terms not found in the Bible.
which has more value to God?
how man's tradition defines what he creates into a Doctrine or using what the Inspired Word of God used and shaping my beliefs according to that?
i am only trying to please God, not God's creation!
how man's tradition defines what he creates into a Doctrine or using what the Inspired Word of God used and shaping my beliefs according to that?
i am only trying to please God, not God's creation!
On that point, I very much believe God is a Spirit as written, but also is a Person.
The definition of the word 'person' does not always mean a human, like one born in the flesh. It can mean 'self', and 'individual personality'. And our Heavenly Father and His Son definitely is an Individual, the First Individual even. His Word declares that He is a Soul too (Matthew 26:38).
So I think you are just debating Semantics with that word Person.
Another idea many are wrongly taught today is that the word 'man' must always mean a human born in the flesh. It does not always mean that, simply because God said Let Us make man in Our Image, in Our Likeness (Genesis 1). This is why God has the outward likeness of a man, (per Daniel, Isaiah, etc.), and also the angels do (Genesis 19).
He is describing either Modualism or Oneness, as Branham denied the biblcal trinity and held to an heretical view of God!
The father and Jesus and Holy Spirit all speak, talk, have the Omni attributes of God, and all 3 have eternally existed!
Do you see that God eternally has existed as 3 distinct persons who are all yet One God?
Just trying to clarify if they are holding to God as being either Unitarian, Modualism or Oneness, as None of those views are the biblical one of God!
God the Father and the Holy Spirit are, but now Jesus is forever the God man!
Are you holding to all of the Godhead is in Jesus, to a Oneness view of God then?
Do you hold to Modualism then?
The One mess Cult and heresy came out from AoG in their annual campfire meetings of 1916-17, as certain ministers there claimed that God had revealed to them that Oneness is how he really is, and the AoG to their credit rebuked them as now holding to a false heresy!Baptists and Assemblies of God are Trinitarians. You aren't.
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The terms "Trinity" and "persons" as related to the Godhead, while not found in the Scriptures, are words in harmony with Scripture, whereby we may convey to others our immediate understanding of the doctrine of Christ respecting the Being of God, as distinguished from "gods many and lords many." We therefore may speak with propriety of the Lord our God who is One Lord, as a trinity or as one Being of three persons, and still be absolutely scriptural.
I am absolutely a Trinitarian. The AoG church does not hold to Modalism according to their website.
Eph 1:11-14 NKJV In Him (Christ) we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, (12) that we who first trusted in Christ should be to the praise of His glory. (13) In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, (14) who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
The predestined are those who, believing in Jesus Christ accept Him as their Lord and Saviour. These are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, thereby guaranteeing their inheritance. Those who deny Jesus is God with us as many of the cults do (unbelievers) are not sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise and neither are they predestined to be with God in Glory.
It should not need saying that those who believe JESUS CHRIST IS LORD and accept him as their Lord and Saviour are predestined to spend eternity with Him.
Those who deny Jesus is LORD, and there are a lot who have not yielded their lives to Him, need to spend their waking hours in fear and trembling.
Jesus said, “Follow me.” And having done that we are predestined to spend eternity with Him. And that my friends, is the lesson of Predestination.
The predestined are those who, believing in Jesus Christ accept Him as their Lord and Saviour. These are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, thereby guaranteeing their inheritance. Those who deny Jesus is God with us as many of the cults do (unbelievers) are not sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise and neither are they predestined to be with God in Glory.
It should not need saying that those who believe JESUS CHRIST IS LORD and accept him as their Lord and Saviour are predestined to spend eternity with Him.
Those who deny Jesus is LORD, and there are a lot who have not yielded their lives to Him, need to spend their waking hours in fear and trembling.
Jesus said, “Follow me.” And having done that we are predestined to spend eternity with Him. And that my friends, is the lesson of Predestination.
Please stay on topic.
The Mormons teach members that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are three gods. Therefore, they will cleverly tell you Jesus is God.
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