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[Major]

Thanks I would offer. . Prophecy like a few other key words has been changed by men as an oral tradition, men adding new (un-authorized) meaning to words. Prophecy is simply the declaration of God revealing his mind as a witness who was there working in mankind to both will and perform His good pleasure

How would a person compare the spiritual unseen to the same or called faith to faith .or even face to face in the knowledge of God ?

What happens when one literalized the hidden spiritual meaning hid in aparble

The Bible alone (sola scriptura) its entirety is book of true prophecy the declared witness of God .It contain no private interpretations of men. Every word in men of old is God breathed or moved by God. Not one jot or tittle from the mind of mankind.

When men start to subtract from the whole accrediting some to this person or another like Paul against James. They have already violated the warning in the last chapter of Revelation as well as the reference in Deuteronomy 4 :2 similar to the Revelation 22 warning but in respect to a single world like prophet apostle or the word saint a few that get abused quite often and therefore destroying the integrity of the whole ,

We have the whole book or perfect book .There are no law missing by which we could know our God more intimately of face to face.

I do not practice necromancy, seeking the dead saints as disembodied workers with familiar spirits. We are taught not to according to the parable of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16.

We are in the tribulation the last days signified in a parable (found in revealtion 20 by the metaphor "thousand years" just as it used throughout the Bible to represent a un know concealed .

God does not number time periods or people. That is the kind of government that employs a hierarchy of men that lord it over the faith of the non-venerable .Again it was reformed when the veil was rent and Satan fell not have the ability to deceive all the nation that salvation had to do with the flesh kings the pagan foundation .WE are the temple of Christ .It was reestablished

Those last days they began at the time of reformation signaled by the renting of the veil which previous when Jesus walked out of the temple for the last time declared it desolation as in is desolate not 40 years later 70 AD. No sign was given that had not already been fulfilled . Jesus says it’s a evil generation (no faith as it is written) therefore they seek after a sign seeing before they will trust God not seen

We walk by faith that works in us not by looking at the flesh the temporal things

The time of tribulation like never before or ever again had come the time of reformation restoring the order to Judges as show at Pentecost the promise of Joel. God restoring the government of faith . Christ is here reigning in the hearts of believers. The resurrection gates will close on the last day under the Sun

You said...........
We are in the tribulation the last days signified in a parable (found in revealtion 20 by the metaphor "thousand years" just as it used throughout the Bible to represent a un know concealed .

IF that was true.......why have we not seen the Anti-Christ come to power.

2 Thess. 2:7-9 identifies the A/C...............
" For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
And then shall that Wicked be revealed,(Man of Sin/Anti-Christ) whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders".

And IF we are IN the 1000 year rule of Christ why is there still WARS, FAMINE, DESOLATIONS, and DEATH?????

YOU as a PRETERIST and the non-millennialists, believe that this event is now being fulfilled. YOU have said that there will be no thousand-year reign of Christ to come, but that this is a picture of the present age of the church and is being fulfilled in a metaphorical or figurative way. They say the binding of Satan which is mentioned here took place at the cross when Jesus overcame Satan, and he has been bound ever since throughout the history of the church. Concerning that view, someone has well remarked that if Satan is bound today it must be with a very long chain!

But Garee.......Scripture indicates that that binding or restraint of Satan at the cross was only valid to faith. It was true only for those who believe in Jesus.

James, in his letter, says to Christians, in 4:7.........
"Resist the devil and he will flee from you".

In other words, his power will not be able to control you. He is restrained, bound, restricted, with regard to you, if you believe. But that restraint does not help those who do not believe in Jesus.

The Apostle Paul states, in 2 Corth.4:4.........
"The god of this age (Satan) has blinded the minds of unbelievers so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Jesus Christ,.

There is a blinding power which Satan exercises going on right now. The Apostle Peter, speaking to Christians, says, in 1 Peter 5:8-9........
"Your enemy, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith,"

ALL Christians need to believe in Christ in order to oppose the devil. Satan is bound only to faith, but in that sense there is a binding of the devil occurring today. But now notice the difference with this binding here. That IN NO WAY MEANS THAT HE IS FALLEN AND IS UNABLE TO OPRESS AND DECEIVE THE WORLD TODAY.

Now his complete binding and chaining in the abyss was not done at the cross. TAT again is a PRETERIST position of imagination!!!!

That specific event follows the Second Coming of our Lord in Revelation 20:1-2.........
"And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,".

When Revelation is actually read, the events of Chapter 20:1-2 ....It is clearly related to that event which closes Chapter 19 (remember, there is no chapter break here at all in the original); this binding of Satan occurs after Jesus appears in visible glory.

And, second, the binding was not done by Jesus! Notice, it was done by an angel whom Jesus sends to bind Satan with a great chain. It must have been a very great angel indeed, possibly, Michael the archangel.

Third, the angel not only binds Satan with the chain (that is a metaphor, of course, of restraining him), but he throws him into the Abyss and locks and seals the door! There are four separate symbols here. It is not merely a binding that is in view.

First, the chain speaks of severe restraint. It is not a literal chain but what it symbolizes is literal. Satan is a spiritual being and you cannot bind a spiritual being with a literal chain. The chain is a symbol of extreme restraint, a limiting of his power and ability to function.

Second, he is not only bound but he is thrown into the Abyss, which pictures a total removal from the earth. Remember that, in Chapter 9, we saw an angel come with a key to the Abyss, open it, and out of it came a horde of demonic beings who poured onto the earth. The Abyss is there seen as separate from earth. For Satan to be thrown into it speaks of a total removal from the earth.

Third, the angel shuts the door and locks it, which means it is rendered impossible to be opened from within. If you are locked in a room you cannot get out yourself. That is the meaning of the Abyss being locked or shut.

Fourth, the angel seals it over so that it is impossible to open from without. No power can break through to release Satan during this time. He is totally removed from earth and permitted no access to it for one thousand years!

Now IF THAT HAS ALREADY happened as YOU have told us......then why is there so much DEATH, WAR, DIVISION, DISSESE, and TEMPTATION?

If the 1000 year Rule of Christ is the church Age.....why GAREE is there NOT WORLD WIDE PEACE AND HARMONY TODAY??????????

 

[Garee]

The classic meaning of the word "Prophecy" is ...to forthtell the future. Now.....Garee, God has a plan. He has told it clearly on the pages of the Holy Scriptures. Holy men of God, guided by the Holy Spirit, wrote of great world events centuries before they were to come to pass. That is not the question and has nothing to do with your opinion.

Hi thanks for the reply, with all due respect. . .Classic?

The foundation of the word “prophecy" before men starting adding extra. Prophecy in the sense of "function of a prophet" is one who declares by prophesying the "gift of interpreting the will of God", (self-interrupting). . comparing the spiritual understanding to the spiritual, living commandments that work in the believers by which we can seek His approval

Prophecy in a nut shell. . Revelation 1: 19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;

Verse one of that same chapter informs us that not only did he sent prophecy the gift of interpreting His will but also signified. revelatiuon being the last book we can compare the spiritual to the spiritual understanding. Like in the parable Revelation 20 .. . . continuing through 21 to the end, the Amen

As I have already said......."IN the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"....is NOT a prophetic statement.

"SOLA SCRIPTURA" is not Bible prophecy. The phrase sola scriptura is from the Latin: sola having the idea of “alone,” “ground,” “base,” and the word scriptura meaning “writings”—referring to the Scriptures. Sola scriptura means that Scripture alone is authoritative for the faith and practice of the Christian so that the lost man can be saved. SOLA SCRIPTURA has nothing to do with telling forth future events but has everything to do with how man can have a relationship with God through what is found ONLY IN THE BIBLE!!!!!!
The Bible is complete, authoritative, and true

I would ofer. If ."IN the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"....is NOT a prophetic statement? Then we have no infallible record. What beginning? The beginning of what, how, why who, when?

Two kinds of witnesses . . The two witnesses would seem to be a doctrine not commonly spoken of God creates after kinds.it would sem satan would belive its all one in the same .we are made aware of that lie of the father of lies. I believe.

#1 That of God the unseen power

The other the witness

#2 That of mankind seen. What he sees and hears.

The witness of God is greater as the one that works in us to both reveal the will and empower us to work with Him .The work of His faith or called the labor of His love. The same labor that lifted up the Son of man Jesus

1 John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

Prophecy, the witness of God declares the living will of the God, past present and future. Moses is used to signify the letter of the Law death (thou shall die if you eat or do the will of another voice) .While Elijah is used to signify the Spirit or power of faith as the law of faith. The two witnesses of God as if it was one . . to the law and the prophets (sola scriptura) used in a vision Moses and Elijah .

Matthew 17 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. ...

There it would seem God used his two witnesses to point to that which was working in the Son of man, Jesus . Peter who seemed to be stuck on the witness of men. . law of the father’s oral traditions of corrupted man failed to mix faith in what he saw and heard.

Moses gave an infallible account of Christ who was there working in mankind. One third of human history had already past.

Prophecy informs us a “thousand years” used in parables which is the signified tongue of God thousand years represents an unknown .


We walk by faith the witness of God not by sight the witness of man.

 

[Major]

Hi thanks for the reply, with all due respect. . .Classic?

The foundation of the word “prophecy" before men starting adding extra. Prophecy in the sense of "function of a prophet" is one who declares by prophesying the "gift of interpreting the will of God", (self-interrupting). . comparing the spiritual understanding to the spiritual, living commandments that work in the believers by which we can seek His approval

Prophecy in a nut shell. . Revelation 1: 19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;

Verse one of that same chapter informs us that not only did he sent prophecy the gift of interpreting His will but also signified. revelatiuon being the last book we can compare the spiritual to the spiritual understanding. Like in the parable Revelation 20 .. . . continuing through 21 to the end, the Amen



I would ofer. If ."IN the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"....is NOT a prophetic statement? Then we have no infallible record. What beginning? The beginning of what, how, why who, when?

Two kinds of witnesses . . The two witnesses would seem to be a doctrine not commonly spoken of God creates after kinds.it would sem satan would belive its all one in the same .we are made aware of that lie of the father of lies. I believe.

#1 That of God the unseen power

The other the witness

#2 That of mankind seen. What he sees and hears.

The witness of God is greater as the one that works in us to both reveal the will and empower us to work with Him .The work of His faith or called the labor of His love. The same labor that lifted up the Son of man Jesus

1 John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

Prophecy, the witness of God declares the living will of the God, past present and future. Moses is used to signify the letter of the Law death (thou shall die if you eat or do the will of another voice) .While Elijah is used to signify the Spirit or power of faith as the law of faith. The two witnesses of God as if it was one . . to the law and the prophets (sola scriptura) used in a vision Moses and Elijah .

Matthew 17 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. ...

There it would seem God used his two witnesses to point to that which was working in the Son of man, Jesus . Peter who seemed to be stuck on the witness of men. . law of the father’s oral traditions of corrupted man failed to mix faith in what he saw and heard.

Moses gave an infallible account of Christ who was there working in mankind. One third of human history had already past.

Prophecy informs us a “thousand years” used in parables which is the signified tongue of God thousand years represents an unknown .


We walk by faith the witness of God not by sight the witness of man.

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You said......
"I would ofer. If ."IN the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"....is NOT a prophetic statement? Then we have no infallible record. What beginning? The beginning of what, how, why who, when?"

NO SIR! Genesis 1:1-2 is a statement of FACT and has nothing to do with Prophecy. Prophecy has to do with what is coming TOMARROW not what happened at Creation Garee!
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Two kinds of witnesses . . The two witnesses would seem to be a doctrine not commonly spoken of God creates after kinds.it would sem satan would belive its all one in the same .we are made aware of that lie of the father of lies. I believe.

"I have no idea what you are trying to say!!!!!!

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1 John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

Prophecy, the witness of God declares the living will of the God, past present and future. Moses is used to signify the letter of the Law death (thou shall die if you eat or do the will of another voice) .While Elijah is used to signify the Spirit or power of faith as the law of faith. The two witnesses of God as if it was one . . to the law and the prophets (sola scriptura) used in a vision Moses and Elijah .

That Scripture Garre has nothing to do with Elijah or Moses PROPHETICALLY!!! YOU are guilty of reading INTO the Scriptures your PRETERIST agenda.

Certainly, the testimony of two or three credible witnesses, according to the law of Moses, was deemed sufficient to prove any matter of fact; and indeed human affairs in general, even the most important, are conducted and determined by depending on the testimony of men. However, NO, and we not only receive the testimony of men, when they bear their testimony in a solemn manner, upon oath, before magistrates, but we rely on one another’s word from time to time, and sometimes concerning things of great moment.

The testimony of God is greater — More valid, of higher authority, and much more worthy to be received than the witness of men, be they ever so numerous, or ever so respectable for their understanding and their integrity; so that we may rely on it with the greatest assurance. For this is the testimony of God — Namely, this six-fold testimony, and especially that of the last three mentioned witnesses, of the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: which he hath testified of his Son — As the true Messiah, the Saviour of the world, able to save, even to the uttermost, all that come unto God by him; and actually saving all that believe in him with their heart unto righteousness.

THAT is what John was saying!!!!
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You said.........
Prophecy informs us a “thousand years” used in parables which is the signified tongue of God thousand years represents an unknown .

I have no clue what you are trying to say.

In Bible "Numerology" the number one thousand (1,000) symbolizes “immensity,” “fullness of quantity” or “multitude .”
The number evokes a very long time according to most Bible passages. It is often used in scripture to specify an indefinite quantity.
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You said.......
We walk by faith the witness of God not by sight the witness of man.

YEP.......Amen and Amen!

 

[Lanolin]

Not sure who you are addressing but I'll assume it is me since I posted last just before this post of yours. One question to you.
Do you understand the difference between the Abrahamic Covenant (unconditional) and the Mosaic Covenant (conditional)?
I have read Hebrews many times as it is one of my favorite Books. Hebrews does not deal so much with the Abrahamic Covenant as it does with the Priesthood of Jesus being superior over the Levitical Priesthood. It is a bookof 'betters'.

Thought you were talking about the Mosaic Covenant which WAS conditional.

Abrahams was faith based but Moses laws etc were a schoolmaster to bring people to Christ.
Remember there was about a 1000 years between Abraham and Moses. Moses people were finally IN the Promised Land that was given to Abrahams' descendants.
Don't get them confused.

 

[Garee]

Certainly, the testimony of two or three credible witnesses, according to the law of Moses, was deemed sufficient to prove any matter of fact; and indeed human affairs in general, even the most important, are conducted and determined by depending on the testimony of men. However, NO, and we not only receive the testimony of men, when they bear their testimony in a solemn manner, upon oath, before magistrates, but we rely on one another’s word from time to time, and sometimes concerning things of great moment.

Yes according to the Law of Moses what the eyes see the letter of the book of prophecy etched in stone by the finger of God .(sola scriptura) Not the witness of men of faithless men, the witness of our Faithfull and true God .

The word “two” as a doctrine of God is used in parables to represent the witness of God the church, His bride .

The Father and Son working as one God. The Father preparing His chaste virgin bride the spiritual un-seen house of God the church .It is represented in a parable below.

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Where two or three (a family) as a nation gather together under his unseen authority revealed as it is written, He is there working with us. Hebrews 6 refers to it as the better thing that accompanies salvation .the promise he will not forget the good works we offer towards His witness that working in us. . . . not of us .

The word “two” again the witness of God .The law and the prophets. Moses and Elijah. Sola scriptura doing its work of revealing the Son of man Jesus. The witness of God

I think it is shown in the parable. . . the gospel understanding below . Peter under the law of the faithless fathers therefore he did not mix faith the witness of God with the vision. . . but trusted the witness of men what the eyes see acording to the three one way avenues of the father of lies. . .

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Peter like all apostles on a learning curve Christ in them working with until the last day .

Matthew 17 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. ...

Peter is used highly to represent the serial denier. . one learning what it means to walk by faith . . .the witness of God. As it is written.

It as it is written is the power to rebuke It makes the devil flee. . making our burden lighter.

 

[Major]

Yes according to the Law of Moses what the eyes see the letter of the book of prophecy etched in stone by the finger of God .(sola scriptura) Not the witness of men of faithless men, the witness of our Faithfull and true God .

The word “two” as a doctrine of God is used in parables to represent the witness of God the church, His bride .

The Father and Son working as one God. The Father preparing His chaste virgin bride the spiritual un-seen house of God the church .It is represented in a parable below.

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Where two or three (a family) as a nation gather together under his unseen authority revealed as it is written, He is there working with us. Hebrews 6 refers to it as the better thing that accompanies salvation .the promise he will not forget the good works we offer towards His witness that working in us. . . . not of us .

The word “two” again the witness of God .The law and the prophets. Moses and Elijah. Sola scriptura doing its work of revealing the Son of man Jesus. The witness of God

I think it is shown in the parable. . . the gospel understanding below . Peter under the law of the faithless fathers therefore he did not mix faith the witness of God with the vision. . . but trusted the witness of men what the eyes see acording to the three one way avenues of the father of lies. . .

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Peter like all apostles on a learning curve Christ in them working with until the last day .

Matthew 17 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. ...

Peter is used highly to represent the serial denier. . one learning what it means to walk by faith . . .the witness of God. As it is written.

It as it is written is the power to rebuke It makes the devil flee. . making our burden lighter.

The number 2 in Bible numerology conveys the meaning of a union, division or the verification of facts by witnesses. A man and woman, though two in number, are made one in marriage (Genesis 2:23 - 24). There is also the union between Christ and the church (see 1Corinthians 12).

The testimony of God is divided into Old and New Testaments. His agreements with mankind are divided into Old and New Covenants. And, though 2 in number, God the Father and God the Son (Jesus Christ) compose a single Godhead.

The first man, Adam, sinned and brought death and destruction into the world. Jesus, however, as the second (or last) Adam brings the hope of the resurrection and eternal life (1Corinthians 15:21 - 22, 45 - 49).

 

[Garee]

The number 2 in Bible numerology conveys the meaning of a union, division or the verification of facts by witnesses. A man and woman, though two in number, are made one in marriage (Genesis 2:23 - 24). There is also the union between Christ and the church (see 1Corinthians 12).

The testimony of God is divided into Old and New Testaments. His agreements with mankind are divided into Old and New Covenants. And, though 2 in number, God the Father and God the Son (Jesus Christ) compose a single Godhead.

The first man, Adam, sinned and brought death and destruction into the world. Jesus, however, as the second (or last) Adam brings the hope of the resurrection and eternal life (1Corinthians 15:21 - 22, 45 - 49).

Yes in the same way. . the two wittiness of God the law and the prophets (prophecy) signified by two prophets Moses and Elijah It makes up the one witness sola scripturathe greater witness . Two prophets working as one.. The witness of man. . . what the eyes see and ear hears .No faith of Christ the lesser witness . . walking by sight.

 

[crossnote]

Thought you were talking about the Mosaic Covenant which WAS conditional.

Abrahams was faith based but Moses laws etc were a schoolmaster to bring people to Christ.
Remember there was about a 1000 years between Abraham and Moses. Moses people were finally IN the Promised Land that was given to Abrahams' descendants.
Don't get them confused.

The Law was about 430 years later according to Paul in Galatians...

17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. (Gal 3:17)

The land was promised to Abraham/Isaac and therefore fell under the Unconditional Promise not the Conditional Mosaic Covenant.

(Don't worry, I don't get them confused)

 

[Lanolin]

Oh sorry I don't know where I got the 1000 years from. It was 430 years.
The 100 must be somewhere else.

I always thought the law was the school master to bring them to Christ, the Israelites broke the covenant, however God doesn't break HIS promises.

One promise - Israelites - to obey
One promise - God - to give them land

Whether blessings or cursings in that land, was dependant on Israelites keeping their promise to obey. That doesn't mean the land wasn't promised. They could be blessed in the land or they could be cursed in the land, whatever, the land was still their's. As I understand it.

 

[crossnote]

Oh sorry I don't know where I got the 1000 years from. It was 430 years.
The 100 must be somewhere else.

I always thought the law was the school master to bring them to Christ, the Israelites broke the covenant, however God doesn't break HIS promises.

One promise - Israelites - to obey
One promise - God - to give them land

Whether blessings or cursings in that land, was dependant on Israelites keeping their promise to obey. That doesn't mean the land wasn't promised. They could be blessed in the land or they could be cursed in the land, whatever, the land was still their's. As I understand it.

I would see it as the Land belongs to God and they are His favored stewards of that land.

 

[Garee]

The eternal covenant is not in respect to the flesh or land of any nation .It the spiritual seed (one) Christ is applied to a inward Jew born again from above. Not seeds pertaining to the flesh. If any man has not the Spirt of Christ they do not belong to Him . Abel would be the first recorded member of the eternal land. His blood cries out for the incorruptible . Long before Moses

 

[crossnote]

The eternal covenant is not in respect to the flesh or land of any nation .It the spiritual seed (one) Christ is applied to a inward Jew born again from above. Not seeds pertaining to the flesh. If any man has not the Spirt of Christ they do not belong to Him . Abel would be the first recorded member of the eternal land. His blood cries out for the incorruptible . Long before Moses

I'm sure glad Christ's first Coming was in the flesh and I am glad His 2nd Coming will be in the flesh.

Romans 1:2-3 NASB
[2] which He promised beforehand through His prophets in the holy Scriptures, [3] concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh,

Revelation 1:7 NASB
[7] Behold, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen.

 

[Major]

The eternal covenant is not in respect to the flesh or land of any nation .It the spiritual seed (one)
Scripture teaches that within the Godhead there are three persons, the same in essence, glory, and power, objective to each other.

Scripture teaches that within the Godhead there are three persons, the same in essence, glory, and power, objective to each other = TRINITY!

The Father loves the Son, commissions him, gives him a people, the right to judge, and authority over all mankind (John 3:16; 5:20, 22, 36; 10:17 - 18; 17:2, 4, 6, 9, 24; Ps. 2:7 - 8; Heb. 1:8 - 13);

The Son loves the Father, delights to do his will, and has shared his glory forever (Heb. 10:7; John 5:19; 17:5).

I agree with you in that The ETENAL Covenant actually has nothing to do with the Promised Land Garee!!!!

In this covenant, THe ETERNAL COVENANT the Spirit agrees to draw to the Son all the Father gives to the Son, and to glorify the Son by working in the elect to give them the desire to please God.. (John 6:65, 16:14, 21:19) The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit commune with each other; this is one of the meanings of the Christian doctrine of the Trinity.

This covenant between the Father, Son and Spirit was made before the universe was created and it consisted of the Father promising to bring to the Son all whom the Father had given Him (John 6:39; 17:9, 24). The ETERNAL COVENANT agreement was that the Son would submit himself to the Father as he took on the flesh of a man (Col. 2:9; 1 Tim. 2:5), become for a while lower than the angels (Heb. 2:7), and be found under the Law (Gal. 4:4-5). The Son would sacrifice his body and blood for the sins of the elect (1 John 2:2; 1 Pet. 2:24) and the Father would raise the Son from the Dead (Psalm 2).

 

[Lanolin]

I thought it was land promised to Abraham and his descendants- unless I am reading it wrong. God didn't tell Abraham to go into the sea...

Genesis 12:1-3

But not just land, a nation, blessings to everyone on earth and making His name great.

God repeats his covenant promise here - Abram was in the land of Canaan, while Lot was in the city and pitched his tent toward Sodom (that got totally destroyed)
Genesis 13: 14-17

God tells Abram to lift up his eyes, look all around - north, south, east and west - and all the land he saw God was going to give to him and his seed forever. The seeds would number as the dust of the earth.

But firstly it was the land they were going to live on...I am pretty sure that humans were never meant to live in the sea, the moon or outer space. God pretty much destroyed mankind with the flood when they were naughty the first time.

 

[crossnote]

I thought it was land promised to Abraham and his descendants- unless I am reading it wrong. God didn't tell Abraham to go into the sea...

Genesis 12:1-3

But not just land, a nation, blessings to everyone on earth and making His name great.

God repeats his covenant promise here - Abram was in the land of Canaan, while Lot was in the city and pitched his tent toward Sodom (that got totally destroyed)
Genesis 13: 14-17

God tells Abram to lift up his eyes, look all around - north, south, east and west - and all the land he saw God was going to give to him and his seed forever. The seeds would number as the dust of the earth.

But firstly it was the land they were going to live on...I am pretty sure that humans were never meant to live in the sea, the moon or outer space. God pretty much destroyed mankind with the flood when they were naughty the first time.

Someone mentioned 'sea'?