The Controversy Between Christ And Satan

Would you like me to bow down to you all? I can listen and do. If I do would you belive me. Bowing at your feet. Telling you I was wrong?

No one here wants you or anybody else to bow down to anybody here...bow down and confess Jesus Christ IS Lord to the glory of God the Father.

What some may think is wrong is not my idea.

Yes it is just as we are/were responsible for our misdeeds (not our victimizations our sins)
God is forgiving, correct? That is what everyone says. I am not oppressed. I am depressed. I have prayed before but it has never gotten me anywhere.

Faith (putting your trust in, relying on, and cleaving to Him and what He has done on your behalf) is the key...not prayer. Prayer is a good start but when at first you do not see results to your liking you give up? Meeting some needs and making some changes takes time. Imagine if that was your approach to swimming? You either wouldn't or drown...! Let us imagine you would like to see fruit in your life...how long does it take fruit to grow? Instantly? No you have to plant the seeds and then cultivate.
The way I pick and chose my words so carefully, I want to listen but how can I when there is hate behind your words?

You call it hate because it does not also give you your way...so you are depressed. To me that means you were either hurt or abused by someone(s) or else life is not meeting what you thought it was supposed to be, well its not, its hard...its often boring with a smattering of happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain...as John Lennon the atheist once said, Life is what happens to you when you are making other plans...thats only half though...
Michael, if you saw a strange girl dying in the street who was ditry and alone, would you pick her up and take her home, or leave her to suffer the fate she would have depending on your choice. Do you see that the truth lies in what I have said. None of you except for few would help that poor girl on the street.

We did...she was an alcoholic prostitute who had been beaten by a john (a Trnidadian woman) and she lived with us a year and a half....is a Bible believing Christian now, reunited to her children, has a nice apartment...wouldn't you like that? She had to work for it though (not at her trade)...she fell back a few times....babies take time to learn to walk you know...trusting relaince that will not quit no matter what happens....Faith plus action equals miracles. I want to tell you a story in my next post
 
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You have heard over and over not to go near the edge on the rooftop...but you do over and over...in your self will even though you know gravity is an immutable law of God you one day jump thinking "If God is real why would He let me die?" You are falling to sspplllaaatt! You have violated one of God's laws placed into the creation before any person was ever born...someone calls out and offers you a net. The only net capable of catching you before you Sssppplaaatt and saving you...

In your self will you reject it...Sssppllaaattt!

You have willfully violated a number of immutable laws (we all did) but God loves you so much He is screaming at you, begging you "Take the net...His name is Jesus. It is like this...it is not that if you do not accept Jesus you go to hell, it is that you are gooing to hell but Jesus is God's pardon. God does not tell you things because He is some ogre waiting to smite you...He loves you...when mom or dad said "Thou shalt not run out into the busy street, for in the day you do you shall surely get smashed by a speeding car" They were not saying if you do I will smash you...they were warning you in love because they foreknow the end result of such foolishness...(but it would be fun, or thrilling, or how do I know they are not lying)...so you go ahead and run out and WWAAAACCKKK! Why blame them for your stupidity...self will (being ones own lord) is the end goal of the temptation (Genesis 3:5) causing you to do what is right in your own eyes. Hows that worked out for you? Take the net for tonight could be your last night...

In His love

brother Paul
 
Satan's Messanger said:
Would you like me to bow down to you all? I can listen and do. If I do would you belive me. Bowing at your feet. Telling you I was wrong? What some may think is wrong is not my idea. God is forgiving, correct? That is what everyone says. I am not oppressed. I am depressed. I have prayed before but it has never gotten me anywhere. The way I pick and chose my words so carefully, I want to listen but how can I when there is hate behind your words? Michael, if you saw a strange girl dying in the street who was ditry and alone, would you pick her up and take her home, or leave her to suffer the fate she would have depending on your choice. Do you see that the truth lies in what I have said. None of you except for few would help that poor girl on the street.
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I have taken in more than one messed up homeless person. Your missing the point though.

We don't pray to have the devil removed or stop the depression or oppression.

We resist the devil, and submit to God.

Jas 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.


1Pe 5:6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:

1Pe 5:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

There has to be a humble and submit part to God. There also has to be a resist in faith against the devil.

That is Two things WE DO............................... Nobody can do that for you.

God said if you do that, then the devil has to go. That is something God does.

In extreme cases the person is insane and by the direction of the Holy Spirit we can just tell the devil to leave in the name of Jesus. If the person is unable to obey and do their part.

There is nothing in scripture that you pray the devil away. We are told exactly what to do and the result you get.

My part would be helping the person in prayer and showing them what to do with thoughts. We are told to cast down thoughts that do not line up with the Word. I can also use the anointing on my life to keep the devil from trying to confuse the issue more.

If you want help, then you have a part. It's not a pray and it goes away type of thing. It's growing in the Word, changing your mind by having it renewed and resisting the devil by faith and submitting to God.

We do our part, God always does his part and God has never failed one person. Never.

Just telling us about how the devil is this and that is nothing. I have had my share of issues with devils and even though I do have a scare on my nose from one, they are nothing, they are defeated, and they are liars. Now why pay attention to someone that is defeated, a liar and powerless? Makes no sense.
 
 
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Molly is a nice name ..
do you want to meet Jesus ???
it's real easy .. all you have to do is invite Him into your heart ..
 
the best part is you will never be forsaken ..
He is ALWAYS true if you want Him ..
and He is there when you need Him ..
 
Olivia has proven her heart to you by opening it up to you ..
perhaps it would fitting for you and her to talk more Molly ..
 
Molly said:
I can try, it never hurts does it?
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I was a terrible person once .. I lived to satisfy myself and was never content .. always wanting more .. but God took me into His hands and has changed me ..
I am someone totally different now ..
and each and every step has been .. well I really don't have words for it ..
but I look forward to each and every day now ..
 
everything is about the heart ..
the world has a way of polluting it ..
it's what we let into our hearts that matters ..
so the first thing we learn to do, is to stop defiling the "pure innocence we were born with" and start reverse the damage we did to it ..

when Jesus said come to me as a child .. He meant in "pure innocence of heart" ..
this is to trust and comply with Him for no other reason then God is your real Father ..
and as we go down the path .. we learn why .. and when we learn the why, that shows us that we chose correctly ..
 
Molly said:
No matter how far we go to reverse what we have done there will always be new reasons to hate. Whether of not this hate is public doesn't matter. It's a cycle. But the main reason we all hate is because of jealousy.
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actually all cycles can be broken ..
I do not hate anyone on this earth ..
true enough, there are a few I do not like, but I hate no one ..
that is a BIG step that is easy to make ..

people get jealous (covet) because of wanting self to be first ..
that is the other BIG step that is easy to do ..
if we put God in the place we reserved for self ..
then jealousy will melt away ..
 
Molly said:
Jealousy will always be with you, subconsciously or not. Whether you detest jealously or ignore it, it will still be there.
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true .. we all have an ego .. but you do not have to feed it ..
have you ever heard the Indian story of the two wolves ???
it works like that .. the one you feed is the one that will win ..
so though your ego will always be there .. you can shrink it down to the size of a pea ..
it doesn't have to be a monster you must fight at every turn ..
 
does that make sense ???
you do know, Olivia fought for you from the beginning ..
she even thumped me because I wasn't being compassionate enough ..
actually the thing is, it wasn't that I was not being compassionate, I have seen it in most (including self) we usually must reach a point where we say .. "this isn't working" for us to actually try what is so simple to do, that we perceive as an impossible change ..
 
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