VIRGIN BIRTH

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The very fact that it’s mentioned both in prophecy and in historical happening, makes it an integral part to our salvation. So even though it isn’t spelled out as a requirement to know, it is part of God’s Divine plan…i.e. ‘the plan of salvation’.
 

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With the birthday of Jesus (As set by the RCC) comes closer, why do you think that it is important to believe that He, Jesus, the Son of God be born of a virgin. Do you think that the virgin birth of Christ an essential to salvation?

Hello Major;

I'm scratching my head. We have seasoned disciples posting here and from what I'm reading I feel some of us have our "stars crossed."

When I received Jesus Christ in 1966 I have no doubt my parents taught me to believe that Christ alone embraces me with my salvation.

To paraphrase Don Moen;

I believe in God the Father. I believe in Christ the Son. I believe in the Holy Spirit. We are the Church and we stand as one. I believe in the Holy Bible. I believe in the resurrection that Christ one day will return to earth.

My personal testimony is I believe Jesus Christ was born of the Virgin Mary. I believe in the Virgin Birth as part of God's divine plan but I don't believe this is the bridge and the gateway to our Father.

Though we believe Christ was born of the virgin birth, I don't believe this is an essential to salvation. This means we are not to give homage, kneel and worship the virgin Mary.

What is essential to our salvation is the homage we give to our Father through Jesus Christ.

John 14:6, 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Aside from our discipleship gaining the gospel knowledge of Jesus Christ, there is no alternative gateway of our genuine worship of God.

As Jesus teaches us in John 4:24, 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”

To stay in consistent order and indwelled by the One, Jesus says in John 17:17, 17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.

Major
, I feel this answers your question without overlooking the KEY of the RCC that you mentioned, which I encourage all of us not to go into.
 
Hello Major;

I'm scratching my head. We have seasoned disciples posting here and from what I'm reading I feel some of us have our "stars crossed."

When I received Jesus Christ in 1966 I have no doubt my parents taught me to believe that Christ alone embraces me with my salvation.

To paraphrase Don Moen;

I believe in God the Father. I believe in Christ the Son. I believe in the Holy Spirit. We are the Church and we stand as one. I believe in the Holy Bible. I believe in the resurrection that Christ one day will return to earth.

My personal testimony is I believe Jesus Christ was born of the Virgin Mary. I believe in the Virgin Birth as part of God's divine plan but I don't believe this is the bridge and the gateway to our Father.

Though we believe Christ was born of the virgin birth, I don't believe this is an essential to salvation. This means we are not to give homage, kneel and worship the virgin Mary.

What is essential to our salvation is the homage we give to our Father through Jesus Christ.

John 14:6, 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Aside from our discipleship gaining the gospel knowledge of Jesus Christ, there is no alternative gateway of our genuine worship of God.

As Jesus teaches us in John 4:24, 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”

To stay in consistent order and indwelled by the One, Jesus says in John 17:17, 17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.

Major
, I feel this answers your question without overlooking the KEY of the RCC that you mentioned, which I encourage all of us not to go into.
Agreed.
 
Jesus is the New Creation (2 Cor 5, Gal 6). He could not be born the ordinary way into this world.

The Isaiah 6-9 prophecy has horizons too far for the immediate situation there of captivity. A young wife suits the older context but not the one of Jesus' birth. The Law would have called for a couple who violated vows to be stoned, so Joseph was very kind to try to end it silently. But then he had to look after her through the birth window. In the beautiful BBC retelling (2008), there are other relatives in Bethlehem who will not welcome Mary even though she was due; they would take Joseph but not her.
 
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