I expect their death was from old age followed with annihilation.
As for Satan, I ignore him.
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As for Satan, I ignore him.
Some people only think they are ignoring him, all the while heeding his whispered lies.
Is that a glimpse into your personal psyche.
No---but it is a glimpse into my experience. Satan loves it when people think they are ignoring him. It gives him lots of ground to work in. God wants us to be alert and on guard and ready to deal with Satan's lies and attacks, and to discern them as such.
They lived to be about a 1000 years old. Yet God said the "day" they eat they will die.! Gen 2:17
2 Peter 3:8 (KJV)
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Genesis 5:5 (KJV)
And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
930 years < 1 Day (1000 years)
God's math... just to keep 'em guessing so they have to have faith to believe... the faith? That the word of God speaks the truth.
Confronting Satan is the only way to defeat him. The way to do that is to use God's word just as Jesus did. No dialog, no discussion, just the word of God.
Thanks for that clarification, I knew it was somewhere around 1000 years.
One day with the Lord is "as" a thousand years, not that it is a 1000 years. To Adam and Eve it was only one day.
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Which you have no Scripture to back up. That is as good as nothing to me.
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In each case, the texts you provide denote that the spirit is a COMPONENT of the person, not the person himself/herself, which is what Genesis 2:7 teaches: "God formed man of the dust of the earth, breathed into his nostrils (here is the point where the ADDED COMPONENT of the spirit is applied to the dead body of the man) the breath of life, and man BECAME a living soul." The words "of man", "of that person", "with the imperishable...spirit", "of the righteous" of your provided texts make this quite evident.
ROTFL!!!
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In each case, the texts you provide denote that the spirit is a COMPONENT of the person, not the person himself/herself, which is what Genesis 2:7 teaches: "God formed man of the dust of the earth, breathed into his nostrils (here is the point where the ADDED COMPONENT of the spirit is applied to the dead body of the man) the breath of life, and man BECAME a living soul." The words "of man", "of that person", "with the imperishable...spirit", "of the righteous" of your provided texts make this quite evident.
The spirit, and soul of man which is spirit can live without the body, but the body can not live with out the spirit.
I'm not following you. The lie I'm referring to is that of Satan's who claimed that Adam and Eve would not SURELY die, but that they would continue on another plain of existence. Much the way that superstitious people avoid cemeteries at midnight. They KNOW those people are DEAD - but not SURELY LOL. I'm saying that God is true, and that people do surely die. Adam and Eve did not die that day b/c substitute lambs died in their place (symbol for Christ), and they actually did eventually die "that day" if "a day is unto the Lord as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day".
Spiritual death is upon all flesh and has been from the fall, that why we have life in the Spirit.
Here is scripture attesting to us as tripartite beings:
1 Thessalonians 5:23 (NLT)
Now may the God of peace make you holy in every way, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ comes again.
Why do you find that funny?
The Devil said to Adam and Eve, "you will not surely die...." You say they also did not die on that day, but God said they would!!!
Who are we to believe the Devil and you or God? Who is believing the lie?
You can not use "a day is unto the Lord as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day" as that is pertaining to God not Adam, and Eve. Plus it says "one day is "as" a thousand years". It is not really a 1000 years but only "as" God dwells in eternity and is not subject to time and space, so a day to him is as 1000 years.
You and the Devil are both in agreement that Adam and Eve would not die on that day. Which we know they did or God would not have kicked them out of the garden. You are on the wrong side of the fence here. You need to believe what God said and not what the Devil says.
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
How do we know Adam, and Eve died spiritually? Because the first fruits of death, or the symptoms that follow those who are spiritually
dead is fear, shame, and condemnation. Adam feared and hid themselves from the Lord. All the fearful will be cast into the lake of fire. Fear is not of God. Condemnation is a killer. Only the blood of Jesus Christ can take that guilt and condemnation, and shame away from us. As any person would try to and get rid of it, Adam, and Eve sewed fig leaves together to try and hide their shame and guilt to no avail.
Yes, Adam and Eve did die on that day, yet they lived hundreds years longer until physical death. You can be alive today yet be spiritually dead to the things God, using the only thing left which would be your own physical mind and flesh to try and figure out scriptures out, which only leads to nothing.
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