Hey VIA...........did we learn something or were you just surprised that a cute lttle bull dog would know stuff like that????
IF you are trying to say that the "Mighty Men" of Genesis 6:4 were "human men" who had name or better said were well known by all the people, then I agree with you.
The Hebrew word in verse #3 for "mighty Men" is the word..."giborim which means literally......"Warrior."
The same word is used to describe Nimrod in 10:8-10.
The way it is written in the Hebrews is a derogatory sense, contrasted with God giving Abram a good NAME in 12:2.
Now if everyone would carefully read verse #4, you will see that the Bible DOES NOT say that these "Giants" were offspring of marriages.
"There were GIANTS in the earth in those days and then AFTER that the sons of God came unto the daughters of men........................."!
So then by the actual written words, there were no offspring at all. They were already here on the earth.
The word "Giants" is the Hebrew word "Nephilim" and that word literally means......Mighty, or princes.
By the way the same word used here as Nephilim here is used to describe the "Giants" that the spies observed in Canaan went sent in by Moses.
Yes interesting. The mighty men of old as God's renown fought against the renown of those who opposed the word of God . Goliath seemed like a grasshopper to David when strengthened by God . Just as some not moved by faith did with Goliath they felt like grasshoppers . Superhero’s against the others as villains a derogatory term as well as one to support depending on which camp.
In a parable in 2 Samuel hiding the gospel meaning again God using David as a mighty man of old. He is in jail and is found wondering in regard to his relationship if he made the right move with God? Just as John the baptist when he sent for words of confirming that he heard the gospel correctly being in doubt..
You could say God had sent David and John a thirst for hearing the gospel. There he uses three mighty men moved by faith to denote the end of the matter with three representing the trinity.
They went in jeopardy of their own spirit life. David realizing the water representing the gospel as if he was drinking in salvation .He poured it out to the lord. It helps us to understand the doctrine of “drinking blood” a metaphor also used in John 6 parable also.
Water or blood is used to represent the unseen spiritul work of the Father and Son .I think the same well where Jesus met the Samarian woman living water the gospel
2 Samuel 23:16And the three mighty men brake through the host of the Philistines, and drew water out of the well of Bethlehem, that was by the gate, and took it, and brought it to David: nevertheless he would not drink thereof, but poured it out unto the Lord. And he said, Be it far from me, O Lord, that I should do this: is not this the blood of the men that went in jeopardy of their lives? therefore he would not drink it. These things did these three mighty men.
I think of it more as a testament of David's character and honor that evenAs usual, I am not real certain what you are saying. However I will say that the phrase "nevertheless he would not drink thereof;"......
because, say they who take these words in a spiritual sense, it was not this water, but spiritual water, he desired:, however is that actually the case------ as we can see but reason is given in 2 Samuel 23:17..............
2 Samuel 23:17 ..........
"Far be it from me, LORD, to do this!" he said. "Is it not the blood of men who went at the risk of their lives?" And David would not drink it. Such were the exploits of the three mighty warriors."
"but poured it out unto the Lord...... as a libation (OFFERING) to Him, it being rather blood than water, being fetched at the hazard of men's lives, and therefore more fit to be offered as a sacrifice to God than to be drank by him; and this he might do in thankfulness to God for preserving the lives of the men. Dr. Joel Gersom, Hebrew Scholar, thinks it was now the feast of tabernacles, which was the feast of ingathering the fruits of the earth, when great quantities of water were drawn and poured out at the altar, which was done to obtain the blessing of the former rain
Also see and read Source: Dr. J. Gill on John 7:37 and Dr. Albert Barnes on John 7:38.
I think of it more as a testament of David's character and honor that even
as king he wouldn't partake of his desires at the expense of shedding
blood. Even though he did with Bathsheba. David was a man of honor
and was a friend of God. If there is a parable in this I would say he could
not drink of 'that cup' because it was too much for him to consume.
What do you think?
I agree. I don't go hunting for parables in the Bible either.It is NOT a Parable IMHO! A Parable a simple story used to illustrate a moral or spiritual lesson, as told by Jesus in the Gospels.
Every Scripture in the Bible is not a Parable as some say. Many, many Scriptures do imply a spiritual meaning and Sometimes it is just a plain and simple historical statement.
David said............."Far be it from me" — I have no idea but it seems to me and from what I have read from others is that is there is a lesson to be learned here, it is that David looked upon the water no longer as water, but as the blood of those men who fetched it with the peril of their lives; and the blood of every thing belonged to the Lord, and therefore he poured it out before him.
If the generosity of David’s worthies was great, David’s generosity was no less so. Such actions as these dignify human nature, and manifest an excellence and grandeur which one should not otherwise think it capable of. These things did these three — MIGHT MEN, that They all joined in this hazardous exploit. But now follows what they did singly.
Now we might want to rethink the idea that David did not have a desire to shed blood and his character. Can you think of a commandment that HE DID NOT break?
That right there now would be he lesson to be learned. God forgives us no matter what it is that we have done!!!!!