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Ok, here is another question: Jesus’s crucifixion was purposeful. In other words, it was by design. So, if this is the case (and I know it is), did Judas really have a choice? Would not his betrayal also be by design? Granted, I suspect Jesus would have confronted these soldiers, even if Judas had not identified him, but is there a possibility that Judas’ actions were required to fulfill the prophecy?

Yes, I know he was a thief and sold Jesus out for 30 pieces of silver, but maybe that was by design as well?

I guess I just to not know.

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Ok, here is another question: Jesus’s crucifixion was purposeful. In other words, it was by design. So, if this is the case (and I know it is), did Judas really have a choice? Would not his betrayal also be by design? Granted, I suspect Jesus would have confronted these soldiers, even if Judas had not identified him, but is there a possibility that Judas’ actions were required to fulfill the prophecy?

Yes, I know he was a thief and sold Jesus out for 30 pieces of silver, but maybe that was by design as well?

I guess I just to not know.

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OK, learning something I did not know. There is a theory that the reason Judas betrayed Jesus was political. In particular, that Judas was part of a political group that wanted Rome out of Israel and that he believed Jesus would eventually drive the Romans away. When he finally understood that this was not Jesus’ intent, be betrayed Him in hopes that it would force Jesus to drive Rome out. This is the reason that, once Judas realized Jesus' true intent, he (Judas) realized what he had done, which is why he threw the silver to the ground and took his own life.

“Then the multitudes who went before and those who followed cried out, saying: “Hosanna to the Son of David! ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ Hosanna in the highest!” (Matthew 21:9). The word hosanna means "save, rescue, savior". In the Hebrew Bible it is used only in verses such as "help" or "save, I pray" (Psalms 118:25).

The name Judas Iscariot can be interpreted in more than one way. ‘Judas’ is the Greek form of Judah, a common Hebrew name. ‘Iscariot’ might be the Hellenised form of the Hebrew ’Ish Keriot, ‘man of Keriot’, a reference to Judas’s home town (see Jeremiah 48:24). Another explanation is that Judas Iscariot is the Greek form of Judah Sicariot: Judah the Daggerman. The Sicarii were a first-century group related to the Zealots, who also opposed Roman occupation. Unlike the Zealots, though, they did not aim to attack Romans directly. They would use curved sicae, concealed under a cloak, to assassinate Jewish sympathisers. There’s a good chance that Judas was a Sicarius. (see: http://www.jubilee-centre.org/judas_racketeer_or_revolutionary/)

This might be “old news” to those you have been around for a while, but it is news to me.

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Let's just stick to what the bible says: Jesus TOLD Judas to turn him in. Judas obeyed, collecting some free money as part of the deal. But he threw that money on the floor of the temple, so that was not the money he used to buy a field. He bought the field with "the reward of iniquity" -- money he stole from the bag.

Acts 1 King James Version (KJV)
1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,

2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:

"Apostles whom he had chosen," get it? Judas was there. The group accepted his presence.

4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.

Verse 4 is the command that Judas disobeyed. He departed from Jerusalem to go to his field.

10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee,

Judas was not from Galilee. He had left the group between verses 4 and 10.

18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.

People go bonkers trying to invent some explanation for how a man can hang himself and "fall headlong". That is because they have not adequately studied the history. You always need to remember that the bible was not written in English. Today "hanged" means a rope around the neck, but in those days it meant to fall on a sword. The sword would catch on the spine and the body would hang there. That is why he "burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."

25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

Verse 25 confirms Judas's disobedience to the command in verse 4. The alleged betrayal had nothing to do with it.
 
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Let's just stick to what the bible says: Jesus TOLD Judas to turn him in. Judas obeyed, collecting some free money as part of the deal. But he threw that money on the floor of the temple, so that was not the money he used to buy a field. He bought the field with "the reward of iniquity" -- money he stole from the bag.

Acts 1 King James Version (KJV)
1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,

2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:

"Apostles whom he had chosen," get it? Judas was there. The group accepted his presence.

4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.

Verse 4 is the command that Judas disobeyed. He departed from Jerusalem to go to his field.

10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee,

Judas was not from Galilee. He had left the group between verses 4 and 10.

18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.

People go bonkers trying to invent some explanation for how a man can hang himself and "fall headlong". That is because they have not adequately studied the history. You always need to remember that the bible was not written in English. Today "hanged" means a rope around the neck, but in those days it meant to fall on a sword. The sword would catch on the spine and the body would hang there. That is why he "burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."

25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

Verse 25 confirms Judas's disobedience to the command in verse 4. The alleged betrayal had nothing to do with it.
Ok Saul Mine, thanks for another lesson. I really have a great deal to learn and am thankful you keep pushing me in the right direction.

I agree that Acts 1:18 provide strong evidence that Judas did no t end his life by hanging himself (as we would interpret this term today). The vivid description of this passage clearly shows this. Makes me wonder why all the illustrations of Judas' demise support the "rope" theory.

Now; having said all that, the reason(s) Judas betrayed Jesus do not appear to be as well illustrated as the results of his suicide. Is there any scripture that speaks to his motive?

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(With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. Everyone in Jerusalem heard about this, so they called that field in their language Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.) (Acts 1:18 NIV))
 

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Let's just stick to what the bible says: Jesus TOLD Judas to turn him in. Judas obeyed, collecting some free money as part of the deal. But he threw that money on the floor of the temple, so that was not the money he used to buy a field. He bought the field with "the reward of iniquity" -- money he stole from the bag.

Acts 1 King James Version (KJV)
1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,

2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:

"Apostles whom he had chosen," get it? Judas was there. The group accepted his presence.

4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.

Verse 4 is the command that Judas disobeyed. He departed from Jerusalem to go to his field.

10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee,

Judas was not from Galilee. He had left the group between verses 4 and 10.

18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.

People go bonkers trying to invent some explanation for how a man can hang himself and "fall headlong". That is because they have not adequately studied the history. You always need to remember that the bible was not written in English. Today "hanged" means a rope around the neck, but in those days it meant to fall on a sword. The sword would catch on the spine and the body would hang there. That is why he "burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."

25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

Verse 25 confirms Judas's disobedience to the command in verse 4. The alleged betrayal had nothing to do with it.
Saul Mine:

Ok, how is this for a fresh look? There does appear to be a conflict between Matthew 27:5 (Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed, and went and hanged himself and Acts 1:18 (Now this man purchased a field with the wages of iniquity; and falling headlong he burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out.)

In an article titled How Did Judas Die? (2009), Dr, Georgia Purdon explains that, since the Bible is without error, there is no conflict between Matthew and Luke, but merely two different descriptions of the same event. Dr. Purdon explained that Luke, as a doctor, merely described the condition Judas’ body was found, after the process of decomposition.

I can tell you this, from personal experience. I spent over 25 years as a criminal investigator and have worked more suicides than I care to remember. In a hot environment and exposed to the elements, the human body does go through some drastic decomposition and I have personally seen the abdomen “burst open” as a result of gasses formed from the decomposition (no need to go into graphic details here, but a hot day and cool nigh causes contractions and expansions that weaken skin pretty fast). Does anyone know how long Judas was exposed to the elements, until his body was discovered? Anyway, it is possible that the words “falling headlong” means that the body merely fell (weak branch) and, as a result of the force of impact with the ground, caused this bursting open in the middle and all his entrails to gush out?

Reference: https://answersingenesis.org/contradictions-in-the-bible/how-did-judas-die/

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Saul Mine:

Ok, how is this for a fresh look? There does appear to be a conflict between Matthew 27:5 (Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed, and went and hanged himself and Acts 1:18 (Now this man purchased a field with the wages of iniquity; and falling headlong he burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out.)

In an article titled How Did Judas Die? (2009), Dr, Georgia Purdon explains that, since the Bible is without error, there is no conflict between Matthew and Luke, but merely two different descriptions of the same event. Dr. Purdon explained that Luke, as a doctor, merely described the condition Judas’ body was found, after the process of decomposition.

I can tell you this, from personal experience. I spent over 25 years as a criminal investigator and have worked more suicides than I care to remember. In a hot environment and exposed to the elements, the human body does go through some drastic decomposition and I have personally seen the abdomen “burst open” as a result of gasses formed from the decomposition (no need to go into graphic details here, but a hot day and cool nigh causes contractions and expansions that weaken skin pretty fast). Does anyone know how long Judas was exposed to the elements, until his body was discovered? Anyway, it is possible that the words “falling headlong” means that the body merely fell (weak branch) and, as a result of the force of impact with the ground, caused this bursting open in the middle and all his entrails to gush out?

Reference: https://answersingenesis.org/contradictions-in-the-bible/how-did-judas-die/

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Well lets see what we can see...….Biblically and logically.

Scripture says that he hung himself and died. Now since that is the case, he would have had to have climed up a tree, and jumped out of it.
Or he could have sat on a donkey and jumped off of it. Either way he would be hanging from a tree limb.

Concerning how Judas died, here is a simple reconciliation of the facts:

Judas hanged himself in the potter’s field in Matt. 27:5, and that is how he died.

Then, after his body had begun to decay and bloat, the rope broke, or the branch of the tree he was using broke, and his body fell, bursting open on the land of the potter’s field seen in Acts 1:18-19.

Note that Luke does not say that Judas died from the fall, only that his body fell. Neither passage gives a time frame from hanging until the body was found. The Acts passage presumes Judas's hanging, as a man falling down in a field does not normally result in his body bursting open. Only decomposition and a fall from a height could cause a body to burst open. So Matthew mentions the actual cause of death, and Luke focuses more on the horror surrounding it.
 
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OK, learning something I did not know. There is a theory that the reason Judas betrayed Jesus was political. In particular, that Judas was part of a political group that wanted Rome out of Israel and that he believed Jesus would eventually drive the Romans away. When he finally understood that this was not Jesus’ intent, be betrayed Him in hopes that it would force Jesus to drive Rome out. This is the reason that, once Judas realized Jesus' true intent, he (Judas) realized what he had done, which is why he threw the silver to the ground and took his own life.

“Then the multitudes who went before and those who followed cried out, saying: “Hosanna to the Son of David! ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ Hosanna in the highest!” (Matthew 21:9). The word hosanna means "save, rescue, savior". In the Hebrew Bible it is used only in verses such as "help" or "save, I pray" (Psalms 118:25).

The name Judas Iscariot can be interpreted in more than one way. ‘Judas’ is the Greek form of Judah, a common Hebrew name. ‘Iscariot’ might be the Hellenised form of the Hebrew ’Ish Keriot, ‘man of Keriot’, a reference to Judas’s home town (see Jeremiah 48:24). Another explanation is that Judas Iscariot is the Greek form of Judah Sicariot: Judah the Daggerman. The Sicarii were a first-century group related to the Zealots, who also opposed Roman occupation. Unlike the Zealots, though, they did not aim to attack Romans directly. They would use curved sicae, concealed under a cloak, to assassinate Jewish sympathisers. There’s a good chance that Judas was a Sicarius. (see: http://www.jubilee-centre.org/judas_racketeer_or_revolutionary/)

This might be “old news” to those you have been around for a while, but it is news to me.

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My dear brother, it does not make one iota of difference whether it was political, medical or anything else.

The bottom line is that Judas was not a saved man.

The Bible makes it clear that Judas was entirely responsible for the decision he made to betray Jesus. It was a deliberate act on his part; it wasn’t done in a sudden burst of anger or a fit of uncontrolled rage. He sought out those who were opposed to Jesus and offered to reveal where He could be found. Once they paid him...………..

Luke 22:6...………….
Judas “watched for an opportunity to hand Jesus over to them when no crowd was present” .

At the same time, God knew what Judas would do, and in ways we can’t fully understand, God directed Judas’ path. Many centuries before, the prophet Zechariah had predicted the Messiah would be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver in Zechariah 11:12-13.

Now, in God’s providence, that prophecy was fulfilled by Judas’ treachery. Now had it not been Judas, it would have been someone else who would have done the deed.
 

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My dear brother, it does not make one iota of difference whether it was political, medical or anything else.

The bottom line is that Judas was not a saved man.

The Bible makes it clear that Judas was entirely responsible for the decision he made to betray Jesus. It was a deliberate act on his part; it wasn’t done in a sudden burst of anger or a fit of uncontrolled rage. He sought out those who were opposed to Jesus and offered to reveal where He could be found. Once they paid him...………..

Luke 22:6...………….
Judas “watched for an opportunity to hand Jesus over to them when no crowd was present” .

At the same time, God knew what Judas would do, and in ways we can’t fully understand, God directed Judas’ path. Many centuries before, the prophet Zechariah had predicted the Messiah would be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver in Zechariah 11:12-13.

Now, in God’s providence, that prophecy was fulfilled by Judas’ treachery. Now had it not been Judas, it would have been someone else who would have done the deed.
Mayor,

Yes, I totally agree that nothing justifies the ends. However, I for one enjoy digging into the circumstances of everything. Not looking for a flaw in the story, just a deeper understanding.

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Mayor,

Yes, I totally agree that nothing justifies the ends. However, I for one enjoy digging into the circumstances of everything. Not looking for a flaw in the story, just a deeper understanding.

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Nothing wrong with that my brother.

I think that is the reason I enjoy studying the book of the Revelation...…….I love a mystery.
 

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Nothing wrong with that my brother.

I think that is the reason I enjoy studying the book of the Revelation...…….I love a mystery.
Funny you should say that, as I am going through that particular book right now. Good Lord willing, my days of hanging around the house all day will come to an end around the 8th. Want to get as much research time as possible.

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Did Judas have a choice...what do you mean.
Satan had entered into him. Luke 22:3

When satan enters into someone their choices I suppose are taken the wrong way. They may know what they are doing is wrong but somehow they cant stop from doing it. I would call this being in bondage.

Judas wasnt the one who really wanted to kill Jesus, it was the chief priests and the Pharisees. Judas motive was the money they gave him...he was like their hit man informant.

Judas reminds me of Delilahs relationship with Samson. Her motive was money too.

I guess thats why its said the love of money is the root of all evil.

People will do all sorts of things if they are paid a lot of money to do it.
 
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Did Judas have a choice...what do you mean.
Satan had entered into him. Luke 22:3

When satan enters into someone their choices I suppose are taken the wrong way. They may know what they are doing is wrong but somehow they cant stop from doing it. I would call this being in bondage.

Judas wasnt the one who really wanted to kill Jesus, it was the chief priests and the Pharisees. Judas motive was the money they gave him...he was like their hit man informant.

Judas reminds me of Delilahs relationship with Samson. Her motive was money too.

I guess thats why its said the love of money is the root of all evil.

People will do all sorts of things if they are paid a lot of money to do it.
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From what I have read, the 30 pieces of silver was about 15 ounces and not worth all that much (back then or now). I suspect that money did play a factor in his decision, but I suspect there was also a bit of ideology in his motive. Once Satan has a hold on you, it is difficult to break free. Judas was there to personally witness Jesus' work, so I really do find it hard to understand how he stayed an unbeliever, or hos be became one.
 

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Ok, here is another question: Jesus’s crucifixion was purposeful. In other words, it was by design. So, if this is the case (and I know it is), did Judas really have a choice? Would not his betrayal also be by design? Granted, I suspect Jesus would have confronted these soldiers, even if Judas had not identified him, but is there a possibility that Judas’ actions were required to fulfill the prophecy?

Yes, I know he was a thief and sold Jesus out for 30 pieces of silver, but maybe that was by design as well?
English is a second language for me, thus, apology in advance for being more strict on use “words”, we are more literal in a sense.

Indeed, Jesus Crucifixion is full of purpose: there is an objective to fulfill.

But was it a “design”? I don’t think so.

How the word “design” is used in the OP seems (to me at least) to mean there really “no choice”.
I can be wrong on what the word was used/meaning, but that is how I correlate all those highlighted in red. ie: “design” means “no choice”.

Our Lord Jesus always have a choice to fulfill or not the way to the Calvary/ Crucifixion.
Basis: what is the point of the enemy of tempting Him in the mountain if Jesus have no choice.

On Judas: in the same manner: it is not a design. Yes, it is FORETOLD but Judas always have a choice, he is NOT REQUIRED to do what he has done.

In the same manner as a Christian: we CHOSE Salvation, we chose Jesus Christ but it is FORETOLD at the beginning of time.

Ephesian 1:4 “According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:”
 

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English is a second language for me, thus, apology in advance for being more strict on use “words”, we are more literal in a sense.

Indeed, Jesus Crucifixion is full of purpose: there is an objective to fulfill.

But was it a “design”? I don’t think so.

How the word “design” is used in the OP seems (to me at least) to mean there really “no choice”.
I can be wrong on what the word was used/meaning, but that is how I correlate all those highlighted in red. ie: “design” means “no choice”.

Our Lord Jesus always have a choice to fulfill or not the way to the Calvary/ Crucifixion.
Basis: what is the point of the enemy of tempting Him in the mountain if Jesus have no choice.

On Judas: in the same manner: it is not a design. Yes, it is FORETOLD but Judas always have a choice, he is NOT REQUIRED to do what he has done.

In the same manner as a Christian: we CHOSE Salvation, we chose Jesus Christ but it is FORETOLD at the beginning of time.

Ephesian 1:4 “According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:”
aha, I live in Miami, so English is everyone's second language.

Since I made my original comments, I have had more time to think about this. I guess I believed that, once foretold, I just assumed choice was no longer an option. I keep forgetting the issue of free will. The idea is enough to make someone go crazy.

I am logic driven. As a former intelligence officer, I have just grown used to expecting everything to come in 90 degree angles. I have to work on this,

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Funny you should say that, as I am going through that particular book right now. Good Lord willing, my days of hanging around the house all day will come to an end around the 8th. Want to get as much research time as possible.

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I have many years of study and several productions done, so if you want to start a thread on the Revelation let me know and I will be glad to join in.
 

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I have many years of study and several productions done, so if you want to start a thread on the Revelation let me know and I will be glad to join in.
Mayor, actually I do. I an reaching the end of Revelations and I already have way too many questions. Not sure the meaning of the little scroll and what's with the number 7? I'll stary something, once I have gone through the whole this. One thins is for sure, if any one needed a reason to fear the Lord, this book will do it.

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English is a second language for me, thus, apology in advance for being more strict on use “words”, we are more literal in a sense.

Indeed, Jesus Crucifixion is full of purpose: there is an objective to fulfill.

But was it a “design”? I don’t think so.

How the word “design” is used in the OP seems (to me at least) to mean there really “no choice”.
I can be wrong on what the word was used/meaning, but that is how I correlate all those highlighted in red. ie: “design” means “no choice”.

Our Lord Jesus always have a choice to fulfill or not the way to the Calvary/ Crucifixion.
Basis: what is the point of the enemy of tempting Him in the mountain if Jesus have no choice.

On Judas: in the same manner: it is not a design. Yes, it is FORETOLD but Judas always have a choice, he is NOT REQUIRED to do what he has done.

In the same manner as a Christian: we CHOSE Salvation, we chose Jesus Christ but it is FORETOLD at the beginning of time.

Ephesian 1:4 “According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:”
May I take the opportunity to post what the Scriptures tell us about ...…...…...
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Indeed, Jesus Crucifixion is full of purpose: there is an objective to fulfill. But was it a “design”? I don’t think so."

1 Peter 1:20...…….....
" God chose Jesus as your ransom long before the world began...".

Revelation 13:8...….
" the Lamb of God (Jesus) who was slain from the creation of the world."

It would be helpful to remember that God is not confined to our perception of time. He exists outside of time and our thinking about it.
He is limitless, almighty, all knowing. He knows all things that have been, are, and are to come.

Ephesians 3:9-11...........
"And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our LORD"

What does that mean??????

This means even before the Genesis 1:1, God knew the sacrifice that would need to be made in order to bring mankind to Him.

Jesus therefore was NOT Plan B. Jesus was always the Messiah who come to save humanity. At sometime, Trillions of years ago, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit sat down and determined exactly what would happen, how it would happen and when it would happen.

We know Christ was always with God from this point as the Word, and through Him things came to be (John 1). We also know Jesus knew/came to understand this through such verses as John 17:5...…...…….....
"And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed."
 
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Mayor, actually I do. I an reaching the end of Revelations and I already have way too many questions. Not sure the meaning of the little scroll and what's with the number 7? I'll stary something, once I have gone through the whole this. One thins is for sure, if any one needed a reason to fear the Lord, this book will do it.

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Agreed.

Allow me to help you on this.

There is only ONE Revelation, not Revelation(S).

Rev. 5:1...………..(NIV)
"Then I saw in the right hand of him who sat on the throne a scroll with writing on both sides and sealed with seven seals."

Rev. 5:1...…………(KJV)
"And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals".

"Scroll" = BOOK. It depends of the translation used.
A scroll was made of either paper or animal skin. They were long thin strips that had handles at each end so the scroll could be rolled from one end to the other with writing across ways about 75 to 100mm wide.

The number "7" as used in the Bible is a symbol or reference for "Fullness/Completion."

So then the SEVEN (7) SEALS hold closed a scroll/book in heaven, and, as each seal is broken, a new judgment is unleashed on the earth.
Following the seal judgments are the SEVEN (7) trumpet judgments and then the SEVEN (7) bowl or vial judgments which COMPLETE the judgments of God on the earth.
 
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From what I have read, the 30 pieces of silver was about 15 ounces and not worth all that much (back then or now). I suspect that money did play a factor in his decision, but I suspect there was also a bit of ideology in his motive. Once Satan has a hold on you, it is difficult to break free. Judas was there to personally witness Jesus' work, so I really do find it hard to understand how he stayed an unbeliever, or hos be became one.
Ok well I asked God this one and He just gave me Luke 19:20
In the parable Luke 19:11-27 I suppose Judas is represented by that wicked servant who laid up his pound or talent in the napkin and didnt do anything with it. No trading or anything. He didnt even put it in the bank. Am a bit puzzled by this, but my question is why did Judas betray Jesus.
 
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