Why Did God Lie?

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KingJ said:
You are being elusive. We cannot have a rational discussion if you keep it up.

WHY do YOU say that YOU will NEVER 'make the positive claim that gods don't exist'. Just answer the question please.
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You're serious?

The proposition that gods exist is not falsifiable.

The proposition is unknowable.

It is nonsensical to even talk about, as we cannot even start to explore what the idea of god means.

It is almost a meaningless proposition.

Besides, how would anyone even go about proving a negative concept?
 
Mitspa said:
Post a link?...here is part of how this site advertises itself...
www.christianforumsite.com
An online community oriented bulletin board managed by a conservative Christian staff. Membership is private and restricted to Christian's only.
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Got link?

You know that I am a fan of evidence.
 
workmx said:
You're serious?

The proposition that gods exist is not falsifiable.

The proposition is unknowable.

It is nonsensical to even talk about, as we cannot even start to explore what the idea of god means.

It is almost a meaningless proposition.

Besides, how would anyone even go about proving a negative concept?
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But that is simply not true and you know it. We know that we are a realm limited by the laws of physics. Where 0+0 does not and never will equal 1. So the proposition of a god is knowable. Clearly this realm is a creation by a being from a realm not limited by the law of physics. Only IQ > 10 is needed to deduce that.

It is the only meaningful proposition.

The only question we should be asking is who is the creator? Then we should grasp that since we are such a meaningful / wonderful creation that the Creator would try reach out to us. So the only SANE million dollar question becomes, who has the right religion?
 
KingJ said:
But that is simply not true and you know it. We know that we are a realm limited by the laws of physics. Where 0+0 does not and never will equal 1. So the proposition of a god is knowable. Clearly this realm is a creation by a being from a realm not limited by the law of physics. Only IQ > 10 is needed to deduce that.

It is the only meaningful proposition.

The only question we should be asking is who is the creator? Then we should grasp that since we are such a meaningful / wonderful creation that the Creator would try reach out to us. So the only SANE million dollar question becomes, who has the right religion?
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No. It is not.

The reasonable response is to say that we don't know at this time.

Anything else is a non-sequitur and unjustified.
 
workmx said:
Still having trouble with the idea that you have to provide evidence for your claims?
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See I don't deem "YOU" as a judge.. that I should answer to your opinion...Whats so hard to understand about that? If you come to me in respect and in a common politeness that I DEMAND..then I will be glad to share with you WHAT I BELIEVE...if you choose the believe or not believe? It don't effect me nor does it offend me. But that YOU "think" YOU are some sort of judge of MY FAITH, is a bit offensive and just silly to me.
 
workmx said:
No it is intellectual honesty.

Surely that is not foreign to you?
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Intellectual honesty :LOL::LOL:.

Intellectual honesty is accepting intelligent design when staring at your thumb for longer then a second.
Intellectual honesty is accepting a Creator from a realm not limited by physics created us.
Intellectual honesty is accepting that Jesus was more then just another man.
 
workmx said:
Of course, if you have evidence of anything more, I'm sure that it will be well received.
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Sorry, you have to wait for that Matt 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah." Jesus then left them and went away.
 
workmx said:
No it is intellectual honesty.

Surely that is not foreign to you?
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that from the spiritual realm can transcend into the physical realm ..
and ..
that from the physical realm can transcend into the spiritual realm ..
so ..
are the two realms merely one directionally divided within a larger realm ???
 
workmx said:
No it is intellectual honesty.

Surely that is not foreign to you?
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that from the spiritual realm can transcend into the physical realm ..
and ..
that from the physical realm can transcend into the spiritual realm ..
so ..
are the two realms merely one directionally divided within a larger realm ???
 
KingJ said:
Intellectual honesty :LOL::LOL:.

Intellectual honesty is accepting intelligent design when staring at your thumb for longer then a second.
Intellectual honesty is accepting a Creator from a realm not limited by physics created us.
Intellectual honesty is accepting that Jesus was more then just another man.
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Are you serious?
 
workmx said:
Are you serious?
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You may not be honest here, but we both know that when you are home alone, you do not believe what you type here.

You are driven to entertain atheist thoughts that defy reality by an inner anger / resentment for God. What happened?

What caused you to lose your faith? Can we discuss that rather?
 
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