Evolution

[Lanolin]

When people ask how old I am I usually let them guess or say when I was born and let them figure out the maths.
I don't think it's THAT important, but people like to have milestones and measurements.

When you look around the earth some parts have aged quicker than other parts. New Zealand for example, has some virgin forest and even active volcanoes, but somewhere like Australia has desert and the earth is as dry as dust.

 

[Major]

The majority of dinosaurs were small as a chicken though, and Noah could take the infants aboard no problem. I do not hold to strict 6000 years, but do not thing science will support millions, much less bill;ions of years!
Thesitic evolution requires extreme dating in order to have the evolutionary process, as they deny God doing immediate creation of species....

True. Not all dinosaurs were big and beasty. I am not sure that the MAJORITY were small as chickens but in
In reality, some I am sure were as small as chickens!

Moreover, it’s possible that dinosaurs did not have the ability to make terrifying roars.
That comes from Hollywood movies.

 

[YeshuaFan]

I would argue that maybe the definition of "immediate creation" needs to be relooked at. In present times, we see evidence of evolution in our own bodies. We no longer need the following: 1 The Appendix. 2 Wisdom Teeth. 3 Body Hair, 4 Tailbone, 5 Male nipples, 6 Third Eyelid (Plica semilunaris). To me, the complexity of life (to include its evolution) is the greatest evidence of Devine design.

If the Bible went about explaining every single detail, it would take a medium size donkey to carry it around. We get what we need and the rest has to wait. To be seasonal, take Joseph as an example. He was Jesus's "stepdad," yet God saw no need to let us know what became of him. Is that important (yes); is it needed (obviously not).

rtm

I do see evolution within species, but not in order to become a new species!

 

[YeshuaFan]

I don't think the age of the earth is the most contested thing in Christianity.

I think speaking in tongues is most contested because when people don't understand or misinterpret what others are saying they complain the most. When the Bible got translated into other languages people complained too. Then they even complain and contest over which is the best translation.

It seems everyone has to have a bee in their bonnet about SOMETHING lol.

Also add in Women as Pastors as a bee nest question!

 

[rtm3039]

I do see evolution within species, but not in order to become a new species!

Yes, I agree with that. Not new species, but a better one.

 

[rtm3039]

Also add in Women as Pastors as a bee nest question!

I speak in tongues; Spanish and German.

rtm

 

[YeshuaFan]

Yes, I agree with that. Not new species, but a better one.

There is no natural reason how Dna would become changed in order to transform into a new species!

 

[Major]

I do see evolution within species, but not in order to become a new species!

Could that be called "Adaptation"???

It is being said by a lot of people who are a lot smarter then me that God incorporated the ability within each kind or species to respond in kind to different circumstances the He knew they would be confronted by. And that is whey these organisms are able to adapt. Not evolve.

 

[Major]

There is no natural reason how Dna would become changed in order to transform into a new species!

Evolutionists said in the beginning that through time one simple almost organic, almost life became present on this planet(we won’t go into why this is impossible just now) suffice it to say that from this first almost organic, almost life is how, the evolutionists say all other complete simple and complex organic life stemmed from.

In other words.....ALL life forms/species came from ONE cell found in a pool of dirty volcanic rook on a DEAD planet.

That although it took millions and millions of years to accomplish such an impossible feat, that is the way it was.

Never mind that they have never reproduced this claim in a laboratory.

Never mind that they have never proven that life began as they claim, or as they imagine. Never mind that even though they said that they will one day find the “transitional fossils that clearly show at least one species morphing into that of another, or maybe finding the dead baby of one species, inside or besides the mother, but clearly showing the signs of changing into a completely different species or kind of animal. They say it was possible. But then the shoe dropped. And someone had begun to point out a few simple overlooked fact by the evolutionists. They pointed out that for over 6000 years, they have never found any of these “transitional fossils” in fact the evolutionists became so frantic to provide these transitional fossils, that some evolutionists even made up evidence to support their teachings.

 

[Major]

I speak in tongues; Spanish and German.

rtm

AMEN! You then have the gift of tongues.

However, the gift was NOT speaking but HEARING>

Acts 2:1-4 says apostles went out and shared the gospel with the crowds, speaking to them in their own languages: “We hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!” (Acts 2:11).

The Greek word translated tongues literally means “languages." (Dialectus = Dialect)

 

[Major]

Yes, I agree with that. Not new species, but a better one.

Genesis 1:24........
"And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so."

 

[Major]

Also add in Women as Pastors as a bee nest question!

According to the Scriptures there is no such thing as a Woman Pastor.

1 Timothy 3:1-2........

This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach.

 

[Major]

When people ask how old I am I usually let them guess or say when I was born and let them figure out the maths.
I don't think it's THAT important, but people like to have milestones and measurements.

When you look around the earth some parts have aged quicker than other parts. New Zealand for example, has some virgin forest and even active volcanoes, but somewhere like Australia has desert and the earth is as dry as dust.

The volcanoes are likely to occur in a region that has got weak spotswith it. Weak spot refers to that part of the earth’s crust which is weak in nature. If there won’t have been any such weak spot in the part of earth, the area won’t be having any sort of volcanoes with it.

It is called "Tectonics".

 

[rtm3039]

Could that be called "Adaptation"???

It is being said by a lot of people who are a lot smarter then me that God incorporated the ability within each kind or species to respond in kind to different circumstances the He knew they would be confronted by. And that is whey these organisms are able to adapt. Not evolve.

Ok, interesting angle. Adaptation vs. evolution. I need to look closer to see if that can actually mean the same thing. But I am good with that interpretation.

 

[rtm3039]

Could that be called "Adaptation"???

It is being said by a lot of people who are a lot smarter then me that God incorporated the ability within each kind or species to respond in kind to different circumstances the He knew they would be confronted by. And that is whey these organisms are able to adapt. Not evolve.

Ok, so "Adaptation is the process of adjusting something to better match it's environment or situation. Evolution is a broad term that refers to any change in anything over time."

I see little non-technical difference, but I do see a difference. I submit to your logic.

Ray

 

[Major]

Ok, so "Adaptation is the process of adjusting something to better match it's environment or situation. Evolution is a broad term that refers to any change in anything over time."

I see little non-technical difference, but I do see a difference. I submit to your logic.

Ray

Ray, the real difference can be seen in US. A familiar example happens whenever we take up a new sport, or just increase our level of physical activity so that our muscles to become larger and stronger, and the increased physical forces impinging on bones and joints produces changes in the internal architecture of the bones. Increased physical activity also results in changes to the heart and lungs, and the activity of sweat glands. These are all real changes that can be measured, but they are limited in the amount of change they can bring about. Most importantly, they do not, and cannot, create new structures and functions that did not exist before.

 

[CPerkins]

There are so many problems with evolution in general.

If man had a million or even a billion years to play with basic nonorganic substances, man could not create even basic life let alone the complexity of life that we see around us. There is a component missing that man doesn't truly understand. If man could not do it, I'm just as sure that nature would be unable.

The vast complexity of life and the great variety of life, all argue for a Creator with great creativity, intelligence and power.

To me it takes a giant leap of faith to believe in nature's ability to create life where no life existed before.

 

[rtm3039]

Ray, the real difference can be seen in US. A familiar example happens whenever we take up a new sport, or just increase our level of physical activity so that our muscles to become larger and stronger, and the increased physical forces impinging on bones and joints produces changes in the internal architecture of the bones. Increased physical activity also results in changes to the heart and lungs, and the activity of sweat glands. These are all real changes that can be measured, but they are limited in the amount of change they can bring about. Most importantly, they do not, and cannot, create new structures and functions that did not exist before.

Ok, how about this? How do we apply this to the dolphin? This animal lives in the ocean, yet needs oxygen to live. A view of the fin clearly shows five "fingers." What is the dolphin adapting to? Is the dolphin adapting from living in the sea to land, or the other direction (I say the other direction). If this change too drastic to be considered an adaptation?

I guess the same argument can be made of all cetaceans ...

 

[Lanolin]

The volcanoes are likely to occur in a region that has got weak spotswith it. Weak spot refers to that part of the earth’s crust which is weak in nature. If there won’t have been any such weak spot in the part of earth, the area won’t be having any sort of volcanoes with it.

It is called "Tectonics".

The earth is actually newer near the tectonics.
The rocks are formed before your very eyes. They are fresh!

It's not actually 'weak' - it's active.
Aged or old rocks refer to those that are well weathered and eroded.

 

[rtm3039]

There are so many problems with evolution in general.

If man had a million or even a billion years to play with basic nonorganic substances, man could not create even basic life let alone the complexity of life that we see around us. There is a component missing that man doesn't truly understand. If man could not do it, I'm just as sure that nature would be unable.

The vast complexity of life and the great variety of life, all argue for a Creator with great creativity, intelligence and power.

To me it takes a giant leap of faith to believe in nature's ability to create life where no life existed before.

I TOTALLY agree with you. I think that it is this complexity that forms the most logical argument in support out belief.

Rtm