Terrorists On the warpath now in Afgan!

But I use fiat currency too. I think everyone does. I get paid electronically.
Good morning. Fiat currency just means that it is no backed up by come commodity like gold or silver. Our currency has value only because both the government and us agree that it does.

The governments in the US collect about $4.3 trillion a year in income and payroll taxes. Income tax is where governments collect the most tax: in federal, state, and local income tax they will collect about $2.5 trillion in 2021. Next in line are social insurance taxes, including Social Security, unemployment and hospital taxes, adding up to $1.8 trillion. Ad-valorem taxes, i.e. sales taxes and property taxes, will amount to about $1.7 trillion in 2021. Fees and Charges will add up to $0.6 trillion, and Business and Other Revenue will add up to $0.6 trillion in 2021. (https://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/current_revenue)

Rtm
 
huh, really? Is that actual paper money? I can't count that high. As you can tell I have a hard time believing you.

Well you better believe it sister.

Printing more paper money leads to inflation. That is exactly what Germany did in WW2.

The USA currency has no intrinsic value as it has no backing. It is just like the values of Gold.
The value of Gold depends on who pretty someone thinks it is.

If you have a Gold coin that says it is valued by someone, at $29.00 and someone else has an opinion that it is only worth $2.00.
You are left holding the difference......but if you paid $50.00 to obtain it....you are in the hole due to someones opinion because there is NO BACKING for the valuse.
 
Well you better believe it sister.

Printing more paper money leads to inflation. That is exactly what Germany did in WW2.

The USA currency has no intrinsic value as it has no backing. It is just like the values of Gold.
The value of Gold depends on who pretty someone thinks it is.

If you have a Gold coin that says it is valued by someone, at $29.00 and someone else has an opinion that it is only worth $2.00.
You are left holding the difference......but if you paid $50.00 to obtain it....you are in the hole due to someones opinion because there is NO BACKING for the valuse.
In theory, $1.00 = 100 pennies. However, it currently costs us 2.06 cents to make a penny, so 100 pennies = $2.06. It costs us 7.53 cents to make one 5 cent nickel that is 75% copper.

Go figure

Rtm
 
American tax payers.
Wonder how much it would have cosy tp bombard the region with christian gospel and scriptures nia satellite, radio, and internet?
As a military man, I am sure you feel just like me..........What in the world are we doing??????

With all the information we have, all the CIA and spies and Afgans in country along with satellites and listening devices...WHY did this take place?
Bought the lie of "peaceful Islam,", and did not have the stomach to confront the terrorists!
 
Agreed!

Remember the $400 Billion given to the Iranians by Obama?????
Ok, it memory serves me well, I believe the money was not actually "given" to them, but "retuned" to them. The Treasury inspector general (IG) examined the payments and reported on Nov. 10, 2016 that it had received verbal assurance from the Justice Department “that the settlement comports with the VTVPA.” In its semiannual report to Congress in March 2017, the IG said the payment was made “after receiving necessary information and authorizations from the Departments of Justice and State.”

Rtm
 
Ok, it memory serves me well, I believe the money was not actually "given" to them, but "retuned" to them. The Treasury inspector general (IG) examined the payments and reported on Nov. 10, 2016 that it had received verbal assurance from the Justice Department “that the settlement comports with the VTVPA.” In its semiannual report to Congress in March 2017, the IG said the payment was made “after receiving necessary information and authorizations from the Departments of Justice and State.”

Rtm

"Retuned"? Is that the same as RetuRned?

Either way.....we had it and then gave it to them.
 
history of the u,s we defend them we build them up they hate us . all military equipment should have been removed or destroyed . we done same thing with Iraq

Some say we left so much behind due to the speed of withdrawal.
Some will say this a deliberate move by Biden ? Was this perhaps a gift from Biden to the Taliban and what else has he given them.
Some will say it was a total breakdown of command from the top down.

I will say that it is all of the above.
 
history of the u,s we defend them we build them up they hate us . all military equipment should have been removed or destroyed . we done same thing with Iraq
well thats ironic because in the US, they MAKE the weapons of warfare, and don't like it when people try and take them off them.
As far as I can tell, when US INVADED other countries they weren't exactly DEFENDING them, like it or not, the civilians would have seen it as an ATTACK.
 
Its like if I get bullied and then someone comes along, who is bigger and stronger and starts a fight with the bully, and makes things even worse!

I'm like, oh gee, thanks...I didn't ask you.
 
well thats ironic because in the US, they MAKE the weapons of warfare, and don't like it when people try and take them off them.
As far as I can tell, when US INVADED other countries they weren't exactly DEFENDING them, like it or not, the civilians would have seen it as an ATTACK.
see there is a difference when we attack as you say. when the military has done its job we go in rebuild the country , the problem with iraq Afghanistan is the government was never stable the military was only as strong as we backed them by air support .
dont get me wrong our government and war is not perfect. but we dont round citizens up hold mass executions . we dont rape the women at random will. yes some soilders might and have. but it is not supported by our government .

watch russia or china they will leave a big hole and then take over. is the usa perfect ? nope but it beats china or north Korea . you can speak out about America get away with it. try doing that in china or n.k see how fast you stop breathing . north korea will feed you alive to wild dogs who are starved . or take you out blow you up with a missle
 
Some say we left so much behind due to the speed of withdrawal.
Some will say this a deliberate move by Biden ? Was this perhaps a gift from Biden to the Taliban and what else has he given them.
Some will say it was a total breakdown of command from the top down.

I will say that it is all of the above.
good point but what could not be took blow it up
 
Some say we left so much behind due to the speed of withdrawal.
Some will say this a deliberate move by Biden ? Was this perhaps a gift from Biden to the Taliban and what else has he given them.
Some will say it was a total breakdown of command from the top down.

I will say that it is all of the above.
Well, I think number 2 is silly and not worth addressing. Don't think number 1 is valid. Number 3 appears to be my final answer; however, have we given thought that the equipment was left behind to be used by the Afghans (had they put up a fight that lasted more than 12 minutes)?

Usually, if we can't (or don't want to) carry equipment back, we blow it in place or otherwise make it useless.

I don't know what happened here and I must admit that I have not been paying close attention either.

I did my time (25 years), so it's someone else's turn.

Rtm
 
well thats ironic because in the US, they MAKE the weapons of warfare, and don't like it when people try and take them off them.
As far as I can tell, when US INVADED other countries they weren't exactly DEFENDING them, like it or not, the civilians would have seen it as an ATTACK.
Lanolin ....... ahhh

Weapons are made in a bunch of countries. We might make more of them and better performing, but every industrial country on the planet make weapons for use in conflict.

Maybe look for a better word than "invaded." We do not invade other countries. If we invaded other countries, a large portion of this planet would be our property to do with as we wished.

On the occasions when we have occupied other countries, it is either at the behest of that country or a country that has fallen victim (Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq). These conflicts just never end well and mostly because of the politics.

WWII was the last good reason we had to go to war.
 
war generates big $$$$$ weapon manufactures = government gets money off of them . we left equipment in Iraq probably Iran
These conflicts just never end well and mostly because of the politics. your right
 
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