How much wine is not to much?

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Agreed. Alcohol is what is called a "Doorway Drug".

It opens the door to an altered consciousness and when that feeling (High/Drunk) stabilizes or diminishes, the individual then seeks out the next step.....
Marijuana, then
Cocaine,
then Heroine and then all that is usually followed by death with an overdose.
????? Don't know if I am going to side with you on this one. I believe it is not the substance, but the person. I've never been a fan of the gateway theory. Yes, if you ask a heroin used if he/she has even used marijuana, they will probably say yes. But, if you ask them is they have ever smoked a Marlboro, they will probably say yes too.

I think it is more about addictive personality types.

Just my opinion. I am not a doctor, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn once.

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????? Don't know if I am going to side with you on this one. I believe it is not the substance, but the person. I've never been a fan of the gateway theory. Yes, if you ask a heroin used if he/she has even used marijuana, they will probably say yes. But, if you ask them is they have ever smoked a Marlboro, they will probably say yes too.

I think it is more about addictive personality types.

Just my opinion. I am not a doctor, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn once.

Ray

Same here. I have never said that I have a "shingle" on my door. However I read a lot and counsel a lot and One recent study using data from the U.S. National Survey on Drug Use and Health found an association between gateway drugs and later drug use. Specifically, there was a link between prior alcohol, cigarette and cannabis use and the abuse of prescription opioids in people aged 18 to 25.

If you are interested, take a look at .....https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/alcohol-abuse/faq/alcohol-gateway-drug/
 

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Same here. I have never said that I have a "shingle" on my door. However I read a lot and counsel a lot and One recent study using data from the U.S. National Survey on Drug Use and Health found an association between gateway drugs and later drug use. Specifically, there was a link between prior alcohol, cigarette and cannabis use and the abuse of prescription opioids in people aged 18 to 25.

If you are interested, take a look at .....https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/alcohol-abuse/faq/alcohol-gateway-drug/
I am always interested. Will add this to my weekend reading list.
 
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Well, alcohol is cheaper and easily obtainable, whereas it takes a bit more effort to buy cannabis, and then you sort of have to know dealers and have lots of money to buy cocaine and heroin.

I think it's a mix of both but the theory is get 'em used to drugs young. You could argue that lollies are the gateway drug for children. A sugar high can be just as addictive and damaging - I'm sure dentists and diabetes sufferers agree.
 
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Hi. I was wandering how much wine is not to much? The following from the Bible indicates that it’s ok to have some:
Psalm 104:15 "... wine that makes glad the heart of man... "
1 Timothy 5:23 Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.

And of course there are verses that say that it’s a sin to drink much:
Ephesians 5:18 18 Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit,

So, if it’s to make your heart glad that means that in my case I would need maybe three glasses of wine. I am around 140kg, 42 years old with a biggish build.

But the question remains how often? I would say not more than once a week. I have had more than once a week lately and hopefully I pull up and cut back. I write this because I like a bit of wine, I only drink red wine and no other alcoholic drink.
Now the above verses mention wine, not whisky, bear, etc. So does that mean we should only drink wine? I think so since strong alcoholic drinks like vodka for instance are a bit to strong therefore to easy to have to much.

Anyway, I am very much so interested in others understandings.

Thanks
Ok to have wine, or even cold beer, but not allowed to became addicted to alcohol, or to get drunk on it!
 
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Well some people also overeat and you can't really tell, as they eat normal portions at meal times but sneakily snack and eat at night after everyone's asleep.

Wouldn't one glass with your meal be enough anyway? If you drink more than that, you aren't leaving much for anyone else, and who can drink an entire bottle of wine? These days, they are screwtop, not corked, so if you don't finish it you don't have to waste it.

Some health people say you need to drink 8 glasses of water a day, but nobody I know actually does this unless they want to go to the toilet all the time. Don't force yourself to drink if you are not thirsty and just say you've had enough. Same with eating. I don't like it when people push food and drink on you when you're full.
 
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Well some people also overeat and you can't really tell, as they eat normal portions at meal times but sneakily snack and eat at night after everyone's asleep.
Wouldn't one glass with your meal be enough anyway? If you drink more than that, you aren't leaving much for anyone else, and who can drink an entire bottle of wine? These days, they are screwtop, not corked, so if you don't finish it you don't have to waste it. Some health people say you need to drink 8 glasses of water a day, but nobody I know actually does this unless they want to go to the toilet all the time. Don't force yourself to drink if you are not thirsty and just say you've had enough. Same with eating. I don't like it when people push food and drink on you when you're full.

Hello Lanolin;

Good points are given here in your post and are so true. Gluttony comes to mind including too much wine and I thought of Proverbs 23.

Proverbs 23:20-21, 20 Be not among drunkards or among gluttonous eaters of meat, 21 for the drunkard and the glutton will come to poverty, and slumber will clothe them with rags.

Gluttony puts a mindset in the person who can be influenced to drink too much wine or eat too much. It compromises discipline in the individual, especially the believer and their future.

When I mention "their future" , gluttony becomes absorbed with self and over-indulgence, so sneaking an additional drink or "pigging out" when nobody is around. They have no time to feed the hungry and drunkeness altars the mind making less thought for sharing with the needy.

Not just sharing food with the needy, but making time to spend with our brothers and sisters, listening, sharing the Gospel, being a helper, giving a cup of cold water in the name of Jesus.

Instead of too much wine, let's encourage one another to have too much Jesus!

Maintaining this discipline (disciples) is something we all need to think and pray about.