How much wine is not to much?

Ok, it is obviously a culture thing. First of all, they do not spend their money, they spend their parent's money. Second, it really is not about the movie, but about hanging out.

Ok, it is hard to find current statistics on this, but I did find some from 2017 and 2018. (Who Goes to the Movies? (movieguide.org))

Of the 264.7 million who went to movies at least once in 2017, 34.41 million were age 2-11 and 26.47 million were age 12-17, while 29.12 million were age 18-24, 63.53 million were age 25-39, 34.41 million were age 40-49, 31.76 were age 50-59, and 45 million were age 60 or over.

Thus, about 60.88 million children and teenagers age 2-17 in the USA and Canada went to the movies at least once, which is slightly less than those aged 25-39.

Of this group, 14% go to the movies at least once a month. And yes, a great deal is social/economic and I do live in an upper middle class neighborhood where almost every teenager walks round with a cell phone.

I tried to do a Google search on how many theaters are located in my town, but I stopped counting at 21.

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They spent their parent's money on movies???

wow. Just wow.
Teens here support their parents, and some are even breadwinners. Wouldn't dream of spending *parents* money on movies every week!
If we earn our own pocket money we would spend it for the odd treat for ourselves but that was our own money.

As a teen I only got pocket money about thrice a year - birthday, chinese new year and Christmas. Not every week.
Before I was earning my own I had $5 a week to put into savings. That was for education. You had to pay for higher education here. Still it wasn't nearly enough and most students have to take out loans. (or it would be gifted by parents/grandparents).

I guess I have no idea how the middle class in america live.
Videos would cost $2-$5 a week to rent back in the day, to watch at home, much cheaper than going out to a movie.
 
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there was no movies in my area for a long time you had to go right into the middle of the city. There used to be one in my own town but it closed. Then one got built in the next suburb, like a multiplex, but as it was quite expensive, it too lost business then closed down. Then the mall got bought out by Australians and they put in some movies cinemas, and now there are 3 multiplexes now in the malls within 20 minutes drive of me.

There are 17 events cinemas in the whole on nz (most attached to malls) and 2 arthouse cinemas.
There are 10 hoyts cinemas in nz.
Of the independent cinemas I am not sure, but there's only a handful. One independent cinema showed the Rocky Horror Picture show every week. But I never went. It was renowned as a bit of a flea pit. lol

The thing to eat in nz cinemas isn't popcorn, it's a choc bomb icecream, or tangy fruits, or jaffas.

You couldn't fit a million people in my local mall, but the one in Hamilton is probably the biggest. called the base. They call them silly names like 'the boundary' or 'the base'
The australians named theirs 'Westfield Shopping town' which is crazy as then the malls out west had to rename theirs so it wouldn't get mixed up. Most of the stores would be chain stores from Australia. So you'd go to one mall and it would be much the same shops as somewhere else. And often the exact same fast food.
 
Dear brothers and sisters;

I don't know how movies got into the topic of How much wine is not to much

I'd like to share when our family went to see The Ten Commandments I was 8 years old and sat through a 3 hour 40 minute movie. I remember the scene when Moses fled from Pharaoh and went to Midian in Exodus 2:11-22. It made me feel really bad.

Or when we went to the "Drive-In" theatre and paid $2.50 a car and watched 2-3 movies from sitting in our car. There would be a speaker on a pole and would hang the speaker on the window on the driver or passenger side. We saw the movie Godspell.

Then when Christian movies like The Passion of the Christ, FlyWheel, Facing The Giants, FireProof premiered at the local theatres, these were all box office hits!

Today movie tickets in the SF Bay Area are an average of $16.00. But in the comfort of our own homes we can still play dvds, or stream from the apps right on our TVs for about $6.00, less or free.

God bless everyone and Happy New Year!
 
You have to be very quick if you want to watch a newly released christian movie at the cinemas as they don't show them for very long and often have them at odd times. When videos and later dvds came, every neighbourhood had a local video shop. I could walk to mine. There were probably about 20 in my home town, they were as common as dairies. But now they are disappearing and there's only one left in my area.

There's liquor stores though. There are way more bottleshops than cinemas!
Some suburbs it's like for every church, there is a liquor store.

I remember watching War Room and people cheering the end. I paid to see it and went with a bunch of church friends. I think one lady organised it and booked group tickets, which must have cost her a bundle at the time but we paid her back. You can get concession if you are student or pensioner or on the benefit, but it's not much different. Prices could be as high as $18 a ticket. I think $5-8 a ticket is reasonable.

Now the council has put on movies in the park, where people can watch them outside in summer for free. Libraries also do free movies screenings. It's nice to hang out, not so nice when you have to pay to do so. I made mine free. If I charged per ticket I'd sure get in trouble with the law I suppose.
 
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Oh guess what, you can go to church at the movies, because several churches have taken over abandoned cinemas and hold their services there.
 
They spent their parent's money on movies???

wow. Just wow.
Teens here support their parents, and some are even breadwinners. Wouldn't dream of spending *parents* money on movies every week!
If we earn our own pocket money we would spend it for the odd treat for ourselves but that was our own money.

As a teen I only got pocket money about thrice a year - birthday, chinese new year and Christmas. Not every week.
Before I was earning my own I had $5 a week to put into savings. That was for education. You had to pay for higher education here. Still it wasn't nearly enough and most students have to take out loans. (or it would be gifted by parents/grandparents).

I guess I have no idea how the middle class in america live.
Videos would cost $2-$5 a week to rent back in the day, to watch at home, much cheaper than going out to a movie.
I do enjoy comparing notes between different cultures. Personally, I grew up dirt poor. I did not have my own bedroom, until I "grew up" and was on my own. We did not get an allowance and pretty much walked anywhere we needed to go. I started working at 14. My kids on the other hand, did not get their first jobs until after that graduated high school. I guess it does depend on social status.

The odd thing about living where I do is that the differences between communities are obvious. I did a little digging. The first data below is from y neighborhood. The second is from the neighborhood just below. You can though a rock from on to the other, but they really are light years apart economically.

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Dear brothers and sisters;

I don't know how movies got into the topic of How much wine is not to much

I'd like to share when our family went to see The Ten Commandments I was 8 years old and sat through a 3 hour 40 minute movie. I remember the scene when Moses fled from Pharaoh and went to Midian in Exodus 2:11-22. It made me feel really bad.

Or when we went to the "Drive-In" theatre and paid $2.50 a car and watched 2-3 movies from sitting in our car. There would be a speaker on a pole and would hang the speaker on the window on the driver or passenger side. We saw the movie Godspell.

Then when Christian movies like The Passion of the Christ, FlyWheel, Facing The Giants, FireProof premiered at the local theatres, these were all box office hits!

Today movie tickets in the SF Bay Area are an average of $16.00. But in the comfort of our own homes we can still play dvds, or stream from the apps right on our TVs for about $6.00, less or free.

God bless everyone and Happy New Year!
I think the move from too much wine to the movies was just a natural evolution, but I do not recall the moment when the topic changed.

When I was a kid, the movies were $0.50 and it was usually two movies and a 15 min cartoon short in the middle. I think I remember there being a "dive-in" in the area, but they all closed down a long time ago. I also remember seeing "The Ten Commandments" in a theater, as I recall it was the first time they had a short break in the middle.

To survive, at least in my area, movie theaters evolve into more of an event thing. Some are actually a movie theater and restaurant, where you can order dinner and eat it while watching the movie (pre-C19). Others have video arcades inside.

For the moment, movie theaters are dead (in my area). With social distancing and mask wearing, they had to open at 25% capacity, which is not fiscally profitable. You also cannot take your mask off, so no eating or drinking while watching a movie (Movie theaters make all of their money via food sale. not ticket sales .

To be honest with you, I am impressed that movie theaters, libraries, and print news media have survived this long. We are at a point, where even restaurants are having to re-invent themselves. Heck, even Burger King delivers now. It appears to me that going to the movies is less about the movie and more about the event. The same with restaurant, as people tend to go to restaurants for the event of going to a restaurant (a night out) and not so much for the food itself.

I think C19 just made the evolution happen faster, but it was coming anyway. This whole thing has changed our cultures, but I think it was coming anyway.

Rtm
 
I do enjoy comparing notes between different cultures. Personally, I grew up dirt poor. I did not have my own bedroom, until I "grew up" and was on my own. We did not get an allowance and pretty much walked anywhere we needed to go. I started working at 14. My kids on the other hand, did not get their first jobs until after that graduated high school. I guess it does depend on social status.

The odd thing about living where I do is that the differences between communities are obvious. I did a little digging. The first data below is from y neighborhood. The second is from the neighborhood just below. You can though a rock from on to the other, but they really are light years apart economically.

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My life was quite similar. I shared a room with my brother growing up never did have my own bedroom that was a luxury.

Growing up we walked every where. If I wanted to play ball after elementary school I had to walk home (5 miles). I made that walk many times. I walked home from Junior High (Grades 7-9) that was approximately 12 miles from home. I even walked home several times from high school (22 miles). One of the activities I attended after school was cross country track and a chess club.

It was not uphill both ways ;)

Fortunately we had animals and a garden. Mom had roughly 100 goats, also chickens, ducks, geese and guinea fowl. Grandfather had about 40 head of cow. There were many chores around the house. Grandfather paid me to milk the cows twice a day, feed them, clean the stalls, etc.

Summers were spent in eastern Washington on 200 acres of alfalfa fields. There was planting, mowing, raking, bailing and picking up those bails of hay. I got paid $80 for a summer. Started when I was 12 years old. Days started at 6 am with breaks during the day which ended often at about 11 pm. As a young boy I loved it. It was dirty hard work often in 100 deg F weather, but it was satisfying work.

At home I worked other odd jobs because it was necessary to purchase my own clothes for school and often the other necessities. The toys we got we played with for years and more often had to make our own entertainment. I spent a lot of time in the woods and along the creeks exploring nature. I could count on my hand the neighbors we had in a 5 mile radius.

The American culture has changed over time, there are great differences from one region to another. When I was born there were no malls in our area.

As an American later in life I was blessed with the opportunity to travel, not just in the U.S., but many parts of the world. This was a real eye opener. I saw small villages of cardboard box homes in Jamaica just below a prominent hotel which rested on the top of a hill. I've seen the poverty in Haiti mixed with a wealthy few.

Getting outside of ourselves is important. It gives us a much better perspective on how small our troubles really are when compared to so very many who live in a day to day world far worse.
 
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Well if movies were only 50 cents sure people would go to them every week! Plus they didn't have tv then.
I don't think many cinemas show movies back to back. You have to pay to see each one. Most are more than 90 minutes long with no interval. I remember when there actually was intervals/intermission between movies. Now if you need to go outside or to the bathroom you either have to wait, or miss parts of the movie.

We'll always have libraries, people have been saying for ages about their demise but librarians are always innovating. We've had home delivery of books for housebound patrons for ages. The librarians would even call the borrowers up to make sure they were ok during covid lockdown.
 
I shared a room with my sister, I miss that sometimes. I am much messier than she is lol.
My first job I had at 15 working at my uncle's takeaway. It was an after school job. I wanted to leave school and have my own job and earn when I was 17 but my mum wouldn't let me and said I had to go to university lol. Its not easy being a starving student.
 
I think the move from too much wine to the movies was just a natural evolution, but I do not recall the moment when he topic changed.

When I was a kid, the movies were $0.50 and it was usually two movies and a 15 min cartoon short in the middle. I think I remember there being a "dive-in" in thee area, but they all closed down a long time ago. I also remember seeing "The Ten Commandments" in a theater, as I recall it was the first time they had a short break in the middle.

To survive, at least in my area, movie theaters evolve into more of an event thing. Some are actually a movie theater and restaurant, where you can order dinner and eat it while watching the movie (pre-C19). Others have video arcades inside.

For the moment, movie theaters are dead (in my area). With social distancing and mask wearing, they had to open at 25% capacity, which is not fiscally profitable. You also cannot take your mask off, so no eating or drinking while watching a movie.

To be honest with you, I am impressed that movie theaters, libraries, and print news papers have survived this long. We are at a point, where even restaurants are having to re-invent themselves. Heck, even Burger King delivers now. It appears to me that going to the movies is less about the movie and more about the event. The same with restaurant, as people tend to go to restaurants for the event of going to a restaurant (a night out) and not so much for the food itself.

I think C19 just made the evolution happen faster, but it was coming anyway. This whole thing has changed our cultures, but I think it was coming anyway.

Rtm

Hey Ray;

As an Air Force brat, I remember going to the "children's matinee" on Saturdays, it was .25 or .50. to get in, and also enjoyed two movies with a cartoon either before or in the middle.

You said a keyword, evolve. I'm also impressed at the change in movie theatres, newspapers, libraries and purchasing food in these times.

I feel that when we put this in a Christian perspective, its ok to enjoy entertainment, keep informed and prayerful regarding world affairs in these times, study in a quiet environment is good, and eating the right foods and options how we obtain them especially for those who can't drive themselves.

God is our God of change, good change, why He grows us daily.

God bless you, brother, your family and Happy New Year.
 
I think the move from too much wine to the movies was just a natural evolution, but I do not recall the moment when the topic changed.

When I was a kid, the movies were $0.50 and it was usually two movies and a 15 min cartoon short in the middle. I think I remember there being a "dive-in" in the area, but they all closed down a long time ago. I also remember seeing "The Ten Commandments" in a theater, as I recall it was the first time they had a short break in the middle.

To survive, at least in my area, movie theaters evolve into more of an event thing. Some are actually a movie theater and restaurant, where you can order dinner and eat it while watching the movie (pre-C19). Others have video arcades inside.

For the moment, movie theaters are dead (in my area). With social distancing and mask wearing, they had to open at 25% capacity, which is not fiscally profitable. You also cannot take your mask off, so no eating or drinking while watching a movie (Movie theaters make all of their money via food sale. not ticket sales .

To be honest with you, I am impressed that movie theaters, libraries, and print news media have survived this long. We are at a point, where even restaurants are having to re-invent themselves. Heck, even Burger King delivers now. It appears to me that going to the movies is less about the movie and more about the event. The same with restaurant, as people tend to go to restaurants for the event of going to a restaurant (a night out) and not so much for the food itself.

I think C19 just made the evolution happen faster, but it was coming anyway. This whole thing has changed our cultures, but I think it was coming anyway.

Rtm
Ok, the below is interesting, as it pertains to movie ticket sales through the years:

YearTickets SoldTotal Box OfficeTotal Inflation
Adjusted Box Office
Average
Ticket Price
2020225,656,357$2,067,012,231$2,067,012,231$9.16
20191,228,759,824$11,255,442,588$11,255,442,695$9.16
20181,311,690,007$11,949,498,484$12,015,080,484$9.11
20171,225,639,761$10,993,991,460$11,226,860,216$8.97
20161,301,658,904$11,259,352,764$11,923,195,562$8.65
20151,323,267,005$11,155,143,861$12,121,125,772$8.43
20141,257,400,618$10,272,966,196$11,517,789,658$8.17
20131,339,168,926$10,887,446,341$12,266,787,382$8.13
20121,380,913,845$10,992,077,152$12,649,170,818$7.96
20111,282,891,759$10,173,334,063$11,751,288,528$7.93
20101,328,549,023$10,482,254,025$12,169,509,052$7.89
20091,418,567,388$10,639,257,284$12,994,051,137$7.50
20081,358,041,408$9,750,739,371$12,439,659,288$7.18
20071,420,036,680$9,769,854,914$13,007,535,993$6.88
20061,398,738,283$9,161,738,221$12,812,442,671$6.55
20051,372,980,280$8,800,805,718$12,576,499,367$6.41
20041,495,647,988$9,287,975,958$13,700,135,563$6.21
20031,524,299,815$9,191,529,762$13,962,586,300$6.03
20021,575,754,768$9,155,136,998$14,433,913,676$5.81
20011,465,880,389$8,296,884,639$13,427,464,367$5.66
20001,397,460,079$7,532,311,479$12,800,734,319$5.39
19991,444,664,086$7,338,894,852$13,233,123,027$5.08
19981,443,827,003$6,771,549,637$13,225,455,352$4.69
19971,385,218,935$6,358,155,799$12,688,605,454$4.59
19961,305,216,770$5,769,058,904$11,955,740,509$4.42
19951,221,687,403$5,314,340,893$11,190,656,609$4.35
 
Um ok, doesn't mean anything to me. Obviously its US dollars but no way were movies ever that cheap in nz.

I don't remember any children's matinees. I do remember one year, my dad's company had a christmas movie put on for the children, and seeing the wizard of oz. I also remember one time in the school holidays we all went to see Look who's talking at the cinema.

Otherwise, we never went, or only on special occasions. if it's ten dollars a ticket, and you've got 4 children, you're gonna be spending at least $50 bucks for an outing.

I wouldn't worry about it, it doesn't bother me. Nobody wants to be catching covid from someone coughing in a cinema obviously. When its contained it should be fine.

I saw one movie at the cinemas this year, it was The Secret Garden. I took my friend's son, as I'd promised it as a special holiday activity. We were in level 2 then and it was ok, we took masks in case. Though I was quite disappointed it didn't quite follow the book! He didn't notice though.

No covid, I would estimate I would go maybe half a dozen times a year at most. Depends on the movies. I don't go for the sake of going. I get too bored if its a boring movie and fall asleep.
 
Um ok, doesn't mean anything to me. Obviously its US dollars but no way were movies ever that cheap in nz.

I don't remember any children's matinees. I do remember one year, my dad's company had a christmas movie put on for the children, and seeing the wizard of oz. I also remember one time in the school holidays we all went to see Look who's talking at the cinema.

Otherwise, we never went, or only on special occasions. if it's ten dollars a ticket, and you've got 4 children, you're gonna be spending at least $50 bucks for an outing.

I wouldn't worry about it, it doesn't bother me. Nobody wants to be catching covid from someone coughing in a cinema obviously. When its contained it should be fine.

I saw one movie at the cinemas this year, it was The Secret Garden. I took my friend's son, as I'd promised it as a special holiday activity. We were in level 2 then and it was ok, we took masks in case. Though I was quite disappointed it didn't quite follow the book! He didn't notice though.

No covid, I would estimate I would go maybe half a dozen times a year at most. Depends on the movies. I don't go for the sake of going. I get too bored if its a boring movie and fall asleep.
Out of curiosity. I looked at what movies are out now and I did not see one I would be interested in taking the time to see. I did notice that we are locally at 40% capacity. It is a but of a workout, as you first have to select the seat you want, which is filtered by any east that has already been purchased. After that, it's time to pay. I went ahead and converted USD to NZD, so it would cost you 17.53 NZDs to go to the movies tonight.

Their food prices have really gone insane. A coke and popcorn cost more than the movie ticket.

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Out of curiosity. I looked at what movies are out now and I did not see one I would be interested in taking the time to see. I did notice that we are locally at 40% capacity. It is a but of a workout, as you first have to select the seat you want, which is filtered by any east that has already been purchased. After that, it's time to pay. I went ahead and converted USD to NZD, so it would cost you 17.53 NZDs to go to the movies tonight.

Their food prices have really gone insane. A coke and popcorn cost more than the movie ticket.

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The last time I went to a movie it cost about $6.50 for my ticket. I thought that was outrageous, but my wife and her mother wanted to go. Seniors get a discount. I think my wife and her mother paid $5.50. That was a number of years ago now.

My parents use to take us to the drive-in theater, for a long time these were gone in the Seattle area, but this year drive-in theaters have made a come back.
 
The last time I went to a movie it cost about $6.50 for my ticket. I thought that was outrageous, but my wife and her mother wanted to go. Seniors get a discount. I think my wife and her mother paid $5.50. That was a number of years ago now.

My parents use to take us to the drive-in theater, for a long time these were gone in the Seattle area, but this year drive-in theaters have made a come back.
The price I posted was for a "regular" movie. If it something special, like iMax, it is quite higher. If I recall, the last iMax (3d) movie we went to was $32.00 a ticket and you don't even get to keep the 3d glasses.

Under the current circumstances (C19), I can see drive-in theaters making a comeback. I Googled and there are none close to me :(

Rtm
 
The price I posted was for a "regular" movie. If it something special, like iMax, it is quite higher. If I recall, the last iMax (3d) movie we went to was $32.00 a ticket and you don't even get to keep the 3d glasses.

Under the current circumstances (C19), I can see drive-in theaters making a comeback. I Googled and there are none close to me :(

Rtm

We certainly enjoyed the drive-in movies growing up and the price was reasonable for a carload of people.
 
We certainly enjoyed the drive-in movies growing up and the price was reasonable for a carload of people.

Hey CPerkins;

Those who grew up going to the drive in will probably remember they were popular and the price was reasonable for a carload. Some cities may have had up to 7 drive ins.

When we saw GodSpell people actually got out of the car and raised their hands in praise! 🙌
 
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