Constructive Criticism in Today's Preaching

I think govts can advise people but they cannot actually force people (in terms of safety) to comply.
Some people are just rebels and refuse to comply with anything regardless if it was the govt or not. If you have a population that doesn't trust in the govt they may have elected, then they will be ineffective no matter what mandates they have in place.

If someone was paying someone else to get vaccinated, or you got a free pizza voucher (or whatever) there may be more uptake, but then how does that cross the line into bribery. When I got vaccinated I just got a free sticker lol. My life I feel is important because I have people I don't want to lose and if I died, they would miss me and I would miss them.

Sometimes people feel life is so hard already that if they die it would be one less burden. People actually think that way.
Others may be like, they refuse to do anything they hadn't thought of themselves, but if so, why haven't these people been working round the clock coming up with their own vaccine and trying to save other peoples lives? Is it because they don't care? I don't know. A lot of people are like its only ok my life isn't disrupted. But thing is life isn't like that, for most part, there will be feast years and unfortunatley there will be famine years. Some people need to think beyond themselves.

Ok if you are one of the rare people that is totally self sufficient and does everything yourself and exhausts yourself in the process. But people have families, and there is a lot of pressure on people to continue doing things the same as they have always done, regardless.

if its out of sight, for some people it's out of mind. When the virus first hit, many people thought oh its just China's problem. And China and chinese people were vilified because it was seen as all their fault. Well no actually it's a HUMAN problem. I have a lot of empathy for China with such a huge population trying to survive and provide rice and sustenance for their billions of people, they have continued for THOUSANDS of years in their land and they haven't tried to take over anybody else's and appropriate it unlike many other nations. Their motives have never been to displace people. Yes they sometimes cannot manage and do need outside help but they have done by trading in goods and not by trying to imposing their culture on others or via slavery. I think whatever the faults of communism, they tried to work something that was going to be better than the feudal system they had previously. Of course for most it didn't work but see the only thing is when they saw that people would sell their land and if they had money they could then buy it. Yet for those with cultures who depend on land for a living there is no way they would ever even think of selling their land. that is why capitalism doesn't work either. But people here in nz are selling their land right and left.

Anyway sorry, just rambling.
 
I think govts can advise people but they cannot actually force people (in terms of safety) to comply.
Some people are just rebels and refuse to comply with anything regardless if it was the govt or not. If you have a population that doesn't trust in the govt they may have elected, then they will be ineffective no matter what mandates they have in place.

If someone was paying someone else to get vaccinated, or you got a free pizza voucher (or whatever) there may be more uptake, but then how does that cross the line into bribery. When I got vaccinated I just got a free sticker lol. My life I feel is important because I have people I don't want to lose and if I died, they would miss me and I would miss them.

Sometimes people feel life is so hard already that if they die it would be one less burden. People actually think that way.
Others may be like, they refuse to do anything they hadn't thought of themselves, but if so, why haven't these people been working round the clock coming up with their own vaccine and trying to save other peoples lives? Is it because they don't care? I don't know. A lot of people are like its only ok my life isn't disrupted. But thing is life isn't like that, for most part, there will be feast years and unfortunatley there will be famine years. Some people need to think beyond themselves.

Ok if you are one of the rare people that is totally self sufficient and does everything yourself and exhausts yourself in the process. But people have families, and there is a lot of pressure on people to continue doing things the same as they have always done, regardless.

if its out of sight, for some people it's out of mind. When the virus first hit, many people thought oh its just China's problem. And China and chinese people were vilified because it was seen as all their fault. Well no actually it's a HUMAN problem. I have a lot of empathy for China with such a huge population trying to survive and provide rice and sustenance for their billions of people, they have continued for THOUSANDS of years in their land and they haven't tried to take over anybody else's and appropriate it unlike many other nations. Their motives have never been to displace people. Yes they sometimes cannot manage and do need outside help but they have done by trading in goods and not by trying to imposing their culture on others or via slavery. I think whatever the faults of communism, they tried to work something that was going to be better than the feudal system they had previously. Of course for most it didn't work but see the only thing is when they saw that people would sell their land and if they had money they could then buy it. Yet for those with cultures who depend on land for a living there is no way they would ever even think of selling their land. that is why capitalism doesn't work either. But people here in nz are selling their land right and left.

Anyway sorry, just rambling.
Arguing that the mask thing is a violation of their individual rights is a hard position to sell. The government requires us to pay taxes, it requires us to wear seatbelts, to drive no faster than a certain speed, etc. I can't, theory, even replace a toilet without a village permit what costs money.

I guess you can live off the grid; but it would be a harsh life.

rtm
 
Preaching today should stick to a balanced approach to sharing information for the sake of informed consent when considering getting the injections; such as:

  • The number and seriousness of the injuries and deaths already reported to the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) should have halted the COVID-19 vaccine program by now.
  • By Pfizer’s own admission, evidence is emerging that those who received COVID-19 vaccines may be transmitting to the unvaccinated.
  • Tragic cases are accumulating of heart issues and death for teens and young adults who have received COVID-19 vaccines. Why would we administer potentially harmful COVID-19 vaccines to children, teens, or young adults who are not at serious risk of harm from COVID-19? To do so would be all risk and no benefit.
  • With bribes, incentives, and rewards being offered to coerce people into getting a COVID-19 vaccine, where is the informed consent? People deserve to be fully informed of the risks and benefits without being rushed or blinded by incentives.
  • Many doctors and scientists are looking to spike proteins as the cause for the heart and blood clotting issues we’re seeing with these COVID-19 vaccines. (https://www.kshf.org/covid)
 
I think govts can advise people but they cannot actually force people (in terms of safety) to comply.
Some people are just rebels and refuse to comply with anything regardless if it was the govt or not. If you have a population that doesn't trust in the govt they may have elected, then they will be ineffective no matter what mandates they have in place.

That is indeed the battle cry also used by the tyrants who eventually evolve into pushing for the very thing you don't think will ever come about, which is forced injections...in the name of public safety, of course... Compliance is always the eventual go-to, so claiming it won't happen...let's just wait and see. Some of us possess conditions that make acceptance of ANY vaccines an inherent danger to our very lives. One such condition is called Guillain-Barre syndrome, and yet some of the managers where I work sneer at such, and demand that the health of others is more important than concerns for one's own health, never minding that the manufacturers of some of these "vaccines" have stated that those who have been vaccinated may themselves be super-spreaders. I seem to recall the Utilitarian rhetoric utilized by Hitler and other tyrants throughout history in relation to many other freedoms, and even Star Trek - where Spok claimed the Utilitarian religion's belief that "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few...or the one."

LN, that kind of trashy logic is precisely the style of rhetoric spewed before in recent history, and will happen again in the near future. Followers of Utilitarianism fail to realize that the demands for sacrifices on the parts of the few will eventually place them right square in the cross-hairs of such a system for what they have, and what they enjoy, and they too will end up victims of the very system they helped instill. The party followers who vote the kinds of people into office who will eventually make such demands, the supporting voters themselves will eventually find themselves victims of the very system they stood in support of coming to power, all the while with someone else around them claiming, "Well, there simply was no other way to solve the problems we saw all around us...

MM
 
Please explain with the Scriptures how taking a vaccine to save your life plays into the end times??????
it goes with a government mandate if .they pass a law saying if you dont.... then you wont ... can you not get the picture . had you read i have stated i took the vaccines . with our socialist Gov any thing is possible maybe i should have said could be a prelude to.. same thing
 
Arguing that the mask thing is a violation of their individual rights is a hard position to sell. The government requires us to pay taxes, it requires us to wear seatbelts, to drive no faster than a certain speed, etc. I can't, theory, even replace a toilet without a village permit what costs money.

I guess you can live off the grid; but it would be a harsh life.

rtm
this was a reply to a post on face book against mask/vaccines Nuremberg code!!!
 
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I believe the Lord Himself reveals what we are to preach.

`And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, He expounded to them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself.` (Luke 24: 27)

Then later through Paul.

`For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.` (1 Cor. 2: 2)

Christ is the center of God`s word and that is WHO we should preach.

The Old Testament.

Mosaic - Foreshadows Christ.
History - Foresees Christ.
Philosophical - Foreknows Christ.
Prophets - Foretells Christ.

New Testament.

Gospels - Christ`s Earthly Ministry.
Acts - Jude - Christ in His Body.
Revelation - Christ`s Heavenly Glorification.

May I suggest a great reference - `The Names and Titles of Jesus Christ.` (5 books) by Charles J. Rolls. (Great teacher from last century.)

1. The Indescribable Christ.
2.The World`s greatest Name.
3. Time`s Noblest Name.
4.The Name above all Names.
5.His Glorious Name.
 
yea leave politics out of it.
Jesus did. He never told a sermon where he was urging people to assassinating anyone in power, rebel or naming and shaming.

If there was any instruction in Jesus sermons it really wasn't politics. He told things in parables, like the parable of the five wise virgins who were prepared and the five foolish ones that weren't.

He didn't need to spell things out, the spiritual got his meaning and the ones who didn't have spirit didn't understand.
 
yea leave politics out of it.
Jesus did. He never told a sermon where he was urging people to assassinating anyone in power, rebel or naming and shaming.

If there was any instruction in Jesus sermons it really wasn't politics. He told things in parables, like the parable of the five wise virgins who were prepared and the five foolish ones that weren't.

He didn't need to spell things out, the spiritual got his meaning and the ones who didn't have spirit didn't understand.

That just is not the case Lanolin. Jesus was VERY political.

Politics were at the center of Jesus’ story and His message. Even His miracles often carried political implications. His life was ended in a political execution because he threatened the status quo of the political leaders of the day.

The first words Mark records Jesus saying in his Gospel in Mark 1:15 are highly political.......
" The kingdom of God has come near".

Most famously when he walked into their political center (the temple), overthrew it, and called it a den of thieves in Marl 11:17.
Talk about a political statement!!!!
 
I believe the Lord Himself reveals what we are to preach.

`And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, He expounded to them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself.` (Luke 24: 27)

Then later through Paul.

`For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.` (1 Cor. 2: 2)

Christ is the center of God`s word and that is WHO we should preach.

The Old Testament.

Mosaic - Foreshadows Christ.
History - Foresees Christ.
Philosophical - Foreknows Christ.
Prophets - Foretells Christ.

New Testament.

Gospels - Christ`s Earthly Ministry.
Acts - Jude - Christ in His Body.
Revelation - Christ`s Heavenly Glorification.

May I suggest a great reference - `The Names and Titles of Jesus Christ.` (5 books) by Charles J. Rolls. (Great teacher from last century.)

1. The Indescribable Christ.
2.The World`s greatest Name.
3. Time`s Noblest Name.
4.The Name above all Names.
5.His Glorious Name.

Agreed.....The Apostles Creed was.......Jesus as the Christ and Hi9m crucified AND Resurrected. If that was good enough for them then it should be good enough for us today.
 
I believe the Lord Himself reveals what we are to preach.

`And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, He expounded to them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself.` (Luke 24: 27)

Then later through Paul.

`For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.` (1 Cor. 2: 2)

Christ is the center of God`s word and that is WHO we should preach.

The Old Testament.

Mosaic - Foreshadows Christ.
History - Foresees Christ.
Philosophical - Foreknows Christ.
Prophets - Foretells Christ.

New Testament.

Gospels - Christ`s Earthly Ministry.
Acts - Jude - Christ in His Body.
Revelation - Christ`s Heavenly Glorification.

May I suggest a great reference - `The Names and Titles of Jesus Christ.` (5 books) by Charles J. Rolls. (Great teacher from last century.)

1. The Indescribable Christ.
2.The World`s greatest Name.
3. Time`s Noblest Name.
4.The Name above all Names.
5.His Glorious Name.

Hello Marilyn C;

Your outline and Scriptures does point in the right direction of Constructive Preaching. This topic veered off onto the virus and as I hone in back to the verb of the thread; Constructive Criticism in Today's Preaching;

Since March 2020 the virus has impacted the daily lives of most everyone on all four corners of the Earth. The virus brought about uncertainty, fear, social, relationships, financial strain, illness, death and more. It's a big world.

But our Christian responsibility is to combat the virus condition as well as other conditions with sound teaching of the Bible, sound preaching of
the Word and daily application of our faith, prayer, love and purification of all God already knows and all that He is doing.

The faith and all peoples need context in the reading, teaching and preaching of the Word of God. People want more than instruction but examples of the application is also vital.








 
Hello Marilyn C;

Your outline and Scriptures does point in the right direction of Constructive Preaching. This topic veered off onto the virus and as I hone in back to the verb of the thread; Constructive Criticism in Today's Preaching;

Since March 2020 the virus has impacted the daily lives of most everyone on all four corners of the Earth. The virus brought about uncertainty, fear, social, relationships, financial strain, illness, death and more. It's a big world.

But our Christian responsibility is to combat the virus condition as well as other conditions with sound teaching of the Bible, sound preaching of
the Word and daily application of our faith, prayer, love and purification of all God already knows and all that He is doing.

The faith and all peoples need context in the reading, teaching and preaching of the Word of God. People want more than instruction but examples of the application is also vital.








Thank you, bob,

A very good point there. Not only has this thread gone off focus but many, many believers have too in their daily life.

`You therefore must endure hardship as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. No one ENTANGLES himself with the AFFAIRS OF THIS LIFE, in order that he may please Him who enlisted him as a soldier.` (2 Tim.2: 3 & 4)

Believers need to see that they are being side-tracked by the world system, and need to be encouraged to focus on Christ and what He is doing. And therein lies the difficulty.Many believers do not know what the Lord is doing, or has done over the years in building and maturing His Body. Believers can tend to mark the Lord`s success by what man`s public meeting shows - numbers, other people`s behaviour, preacher`s sermon, etc etc.

Whereas it is the TRUTHS of Christ, His character and His purposes that has been clarified over the centuries, till today we have them all. Just the last one to be clarified - the Eternal Purposes. Believers have died for those truths that we can just take for granted. We need to hold dear all the truth the Holy Spirit has guided us into. (John. 16: 13)

Marilyn.
 
Believers need to see that they are being side-tracked by the world system, and need to be encouraged to focus on Christ and what He is doing. And therein lies the difficulty.Many believers do not know what the Lord is doing, or has done over the years in building and maturing His Body. Believers can tend to mark the Lord`s success by what man`s public meeting shows - numbers, other people`s behaviour, preacher`s sermon, etc etc.
many see and do know .not all but some realize the seriousness of the virus . a lady i know was infected at church had it not been for the good Lord. she could have very well perished to everlasting life. when people see and hear this they fear getting it, i was at this same very church that had multiple infections. i was close contact with the majority . yes i agree on the mark of success. i just dont see a one certain answer to our questions. maybe God is pruning the vine.. i dont know there is true faith and common sense .i have faith that God is at work in all this. i also have common sense that if there is a copperhead let it be it can bite. i know a preacher went and seen by bro n law who had severe shingles. the hospital he was in recommended PPE . he refused said God would protect him. Church dont keep us saved or make us saved. .but it sure helps with our walk . i would be happy to see a huge miracle over night and this stuff be gone
 
many see and do know .not all but some realize the seriousness of the virus . a lady i know was infected at church had it not been for the good Lord. she could have very well perished to everlasting life. when people see and hear this they fear getting it, i was at this same very church that had multiple infections. i was close contact with the majority . yes i agree on the mark of success. i just dont see a one certain answer to our questions. maybe God is pruning the vine.. i dont know there is true faith and common sense .i have faith that God is at work in all this. i also have common sense that if there is a copperhead let it be it can bite. i know a preacher went and seen by bro n law who had severe shingles. the hospital he was in recommended PPE . he refused said God would protect him. Church dont keep us saved or make us saved. .but it sure helps with our walk . i would be happy to see a huge miracle over night and this stuff be gone
Hi again forgiven,

Sad to hear of those illness, however viruses and pandemics will increase as the Lord told us.

`And nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places.` (Matt. 24: 7)

Pestilences - Gk. `loimos` a plagues, disease, pestilence. (note: plural)

Pestilence - Dictionary. any contagious disease that is epidemic and fatal.

We are IN the world but NOT of it. We are passing through and the world system is passing. We are to be careful but not fearful for we are with the Lord whether here or there with Him in glory.
 
Church dont keep us saved or make us saved. .but it sure helps with our walk. i would be happy to see a huge miracle over night and this stuff be gone

Hello forgiven;

I agree. Church won't save one when their heart is calloused toward God, but our love, fellowship, encouragement toward and from others in church surely helps in our walk. Also, I have been wrong many times in my Christian beliefs and convictions by other Christians who have corrected or helped me in my disciple learning - leaning on one another.

They still do in my relationships with other believers.

I forgot to share from last Friday evening. I went to a consecration of my former instructor from seminary for his many years of serving in the church and ministry. During the service, another pastor who is also my mentor and pastor gave the sermon. It was an anointing message and was spot on in my discernment.

Point is, those of us who preach and teach the message hear another teacher or preacher is healthy in my experience.
 
yea leave politics out of it.
Jesus did. He never told a sermon where he was urging people to assassinating anyone in power, rebel or naming and shaming.

If there was any instruction in Jesus sermons it really wasn't politics. He told things in parables, like the parable of the five wise virgins who were prepared and the five foolish ones that weren't.

He didn't need to spell things out, the spiritual got his meaning and the ones who didn't have spirit didn't understand.

I encourage ministers all the time to address the evils and the evil-doers in society and culture, including politics.

Jesus addressed them, and called them out for their hypocrisy. He called the religious leaders, who also exercised political power, names and descriptors that are beyond mere "shaming," so what you appear to be espousing here is NOT following the example of Christ, but rather cow-towing to the liberal agenda to silence people of faith from daring to speak out as did Jesus, to warn the weaker brothers and sisters against the pitfalls along the path of life and faith.

To all fellow ministers out there, dare to speak boldly, as did Jesus. Even John the Baptist called out the local (political) ruler of his day for taking his brother's wife as his own. It cost him his life, but it also opened up the eyes of the people to daring to follow such a man and his examples, and to ever respect his edicts.

Shaming? Yes indeed. When public and religious leaders do shameful things, then revealing their shame, hypocrisies, evil, agendas...yes, we give warning to those who need to know, and therefore prepare themselves to stay the path of holiness rather than to veer off onto some other wayward path that leads to destruction. False teachers also need to be called out onto the carpet, and Church leaders have the example and empowerment from God Himself to do all diligence to open up the dark paths for light-seekers to see for what they are. Therein is the reason Paul instructed that all leaders remain free of even the appearance of evil. When they fail in that, they rightly bring down upon themselves the revelation of their error as a warning to all others.

Now, LN, I'm not trying to take from you the freedom to walk the path of liberal theology, politics and belief. Go along whatever path you wish. As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord...and I encourage all minsters to also seek to serve the Lord in all diligence, in accordance with the examples the Lord left to us. Jesus gave a wonderful testimony about John, so he obviously wasn't at all in the wrong for shaming even political leaders who were deeply entrenched into sin, evil and wickedness.

MM
 
I encourage ministers all the time to address the evils and the evil-doers in society and culture, including politics. Jesus addressed them, and called them out for their hypocrisy. He called the religious leaders, who also exercised political power, names and descriptors that are beyond mere "shaming," so what you appear to be espousing here is NOT following the example of Christ, but rather cow-towing to the liberal agenda to silence people of faith from daring to speak out as did Jesus, to warn the weaker brothers and sisters against the pitfalls along the path of life and faith. To all fellow ministers out there, dare to speak boldly, as did Jesus. Even John the Baptist called out the local (political) ruler of his day for taking his brother's wife as his own. It cost him his life, but it also opened up the eyes of the people to daring to follow such a man and his examples, and to ever respect his edicts. Shaming? Yes indeed. When public and religious leaders do shameful things, then revealing their shame, hypocrisies, evil, agendas...yes, we give warning to those who need to know, and therefore prepare themselves to stay the path of holiness rather than to veer off onto some other wayward path that leads to destruction. False teachers also need to be called out onto the carpet, and Church leaders have the example and empowerment from God Himself to do all diligence to open up the dark paths for light-seekers to see for what they are. Therein is the reason Paul instructed that all leaders remain free of even the appearance of evil. When they fail in that, they rightly bring down upon themselves the revelation of their error as a warning to all others. Now, LN, I'm not trying to take from you the freedom to walk the path of liberal theology, politics and belief. Go along whatever path you wish. As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord...and I encourage all minsters to also seek to serve the Lord in all diligence, in accordance with the examples the Lord left to us. Jesus gave a wonderful testimony about John, so he obviously wasn't at all in the wrong for shaming even political leaders who were deeply entrenched into sin, evil and wickedness.
MM

Hello MM;

Jesus addressed the people, sinners, religious leaders and other god worshippers on all agendas in His 3 year mission. How could our Lord and Savior cover so much in 3 years before going to the cross and saying to the Father, "it is finished?" Amazing!

Ministers today need to be diligent in preparing the tough message regarding issues of these times. There is a lot to cover and if they are not aware, then "picking and choosing" what to talk about is not good exegesis. That is not preaching.

(Without targeting a religion, god or doctrine) About 7 years ago, I listened to a minister (whose mother died) at a funeral speak, and seeing that the sanctuary was full of family and friends that he had not seen for some time, raised his voice and said, "Hey! Whether you believe in this god, or practice that, we all serve the same god!"

This was a Christian funeral and the people upon hearing this, went along with him. I was floored!

As the called minister must seek and serve the Lord in all diligence, we also must pray, asking God to guide the preacher or teacher following the example the Lord left to us.
 
MM, or others,

Please can you show me specifically where Jesus spoke against the Political system and / or Political people of His day?

I do NOT see that the Lord came to `fix` the world system, that is under the sway of the evil one. Jesus did not call out Herod or Pilate, or even call down a legion of angels to beat the Roman Empire.

Jesus says by His Holy Spirit through the Apostle Paul - ` No one engaged in warfare ENTANGLES himself with the affairs of this life, in order that he may please Him who enlisted him as a soldier.` (2 Tim. 2: 4)
 
Hello MM;

Jesus addressed the people, sinners, religious leaders and other god worshippers on all agendas in His 3 year mission. How could our Lord and Savior cover so much in 3 years before going to the cross and saying to the Father, "it is finished?" Amazing!

Ministers today need to be diligent in preparing the tough message regarding issues of these times. There is a lot to cover and if they are not aware, then "picking and choosing" what to talk about is not good exegesis. That is not preaching.

(Without targeting a religion, god or doctrine) About 7 years ago, I listened to a minister (whose mother died) at a funeral speak, and seeing that the sanctuary was full of family and friends that he had not seen for some time, raised his voice and said, "Hey! Whether you believe in this god, or practice that, we all serve the same god!"

This was a Christian funeral and the people upon hearing this, went along with him. I was floored!

As the called minister must seek and serve the Lord in all diligence, we also must pray, asking God to guide the preacher or teacher following the example the Lord left to us.

I loved D. James Kennedy. He spoke with purpose and conviction, addressing things that affected the lives of all who live here in the West...from (a)symmetry to downright (z)eal for wickedness in conduct, teaching, speech, ethics, politics and morals. His passion for serving the Lord in his preaching, hitting where the rubber meets the road for each one of us as we move and bump up against culture and society on a daily basis, he laid down a roadmap to help many avoid the pitfalls and traps of the enemy designed to cause us to stumble and fall...hard!

Amen, brother. Lanolin is right in that, speaking voluminously about some evils and wicked people is unnecessary when it doesn't also build up some thing and/or some one positive in the place of what and/or whom we reveal for their evils and wickedness. There is more than enough negative reporting in this country as it is. That's why I don't watch media, no matter what it's leanings. It's always negative.

As ministers, and all believers alike for that matter, need to set an example to rebuild good and holy in the place of the wickedness we tear down with our words.

For example:

The problem of fornication in this world is doing great harm to many lives when they get to the point of marriage, and public schools handing out condoms to school children on the basis of, "Eh. They're going to do it anyway, so at least provide them protection..." That's defeatism. Those who harbor such sentiments, and encourage the little ones to engage in premarital sex on such a flimsy basis will stand before a Holy God who does not countenance such encouragements for sin.

Conversely:

We can and do raise our children with the admonitions of the Lord toward holy living and sexual purity, which lead to meaningful and loving marriages that last a lifetime, and we support our young, married adults with encouraging and uplifting support and knowledge about the many pitfalls, and how to soar over them so that they have no means by which to trip them up.

MM

Let's teach our children the value of following the word of God and the wisdom therein that provides an absolute means for successful marriages,
 
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