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Lanolin said:
haha

RTM does your daughter's job actually pay much?
Probably not by the sound of it or she could afford to rent her own place! Maybe her friend didn't like living with her either. Oh dear. Also, sounds like her bedroom is too small otherwise all her 'junk' and her laundry could go in there.
And A/C is a pain because you can't open windows and doors to go out for a second without immediately shutting it.

I wouldn't be so mean to suggest she sell her dog to pay for her phone bill. Or maybe just get her to use her work phone and her work pays for it, but get one of those plans, so she can contribute to her OWN phone instead of using your number. (but still be in your household)

Well..Bible says train a child up in the way that they should go and they won't depart from it. Did you train her up? Or, like most parents, didn't really do any training and sent them off elsewhere to be trained. I mean I am not doing any job my parents did and they aren't training me to do their jobs. I did work with my mum once as a summer job but I didn't want to stay and work at her workplace!

Embarassing. Well some mothers and daughters do work together but in separate departments, and I knew some husband and wife teams.

But if you live with people you got to expect them to be able to live with you and sometimes it can be messy -fact of life. Nothing to get ANGERS about. You had children, so...what, disown them and have them live on the street with $3000 dog? When they can't afford rent hmm.
They not invisible you know.

If its only temporary she'll find somewhere else if she knows you don't really want her there. But she'll probably cry cos it hurts when parents don't want you even if you are 33 years old.

I remember my mum crying when I said well I don't need to live with you anymore, I'll pay rent to go live with strangers. She begged me to stay. But, when the tables turned and I was back home mum got angry at me for, well being HUMAN, and complained about me living with her I cried. I said well I'll go live with strangers who like me better if that's really how you feel. It was like really is it that BAD?
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Oh . . .

Ok, she has an apartment in Washington, DC, she is just not in it right now, but still paying the rent. As for her job, she is a US Government contractor, and they are paid well. As for the bedroom, it is big enough. Even if it was not, we do have storage areas and a two-car garage she can keep her stuff in.

As for the A/C, what can I tell ya? Learn to close the bloody door. If you are going to leave your room, turn off the lights, turn off the TV. You can always turn them back on when you get back.

As for the $3,000 dog; I've grown close to her, so how about we keep the dog and sell the daughter?
 
rtm3039 said:
Oh . . .

Ok, she has an apartment in Washington, DC, she is just not in it right now, but still paying the rent. As for her job, she is a US Government contractor, and they are paid well. As for the bedroom, it is big enough. Even if it was not, we do have storage areas and a two-car garage she can keep her stuff in.

As for the A/C, what can I tell ya? Learn to close the bloody door. If you are going to leave your room, turn off the lights, turn off the TV. You can always turn them back on when you get back.

As for the $3,000 dog; I've grown close to her, so how about we keep the dog and sell the daughter?
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How much would you sell her for and where would you get a buyer?
Did you ask why she had a falling out with her friend? Was it over...not closing the bloody door?
Did you explain the house rules to her when she moved in?
 
Remember when I had that fight with my mum about her leaving the tv on and her baking trays in the lounge? Well the baking trays are still there...
The tv sometimes she does leave it on when she leaves the room but I don't really touch it anymore. Also, I moved my desk into my bedroom so that she would not complain Ieave the light on when I left it on the spare room as I was working there.

I remember that she actually got a timer to turn ON the lights for my brothers house when they were away from it to make it seem like someone was there at night lol.

Also, if you come to our house and look in the spare shower you'll find mum's stuff in there. Oh and we can't park the cars INSIDE the garage because of her stuff in there too. So they are outside, rusting a bit. I try to wax my car every so often to keep it nice. She said she had a right to keep her stuff.

Fair enough. Then my aunty was downsizing and gave her a lot of stuff too, so just put it in the garage, which we will never use. (But at least my bicycle can fit.and my bbq). just not a car. Dad's car is outside too.

My next door neighbours have five cars all parked in their driveway. They used their garage as a gym.
 
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Lanolin said:
How much would you sell her for and where would you get a buyer?
Did you ask why she had a falling out with her friend? Was it over...not closing the bloody door?
Did you explain the house rules to her when she moved in?
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I can probably get a really good price for her. She is very attractive and, by the time the buyer realizes just how needy she is, it will be too late for a refund.

I did not ask why she and her friend had a falling out. Both girls have known each other since grade school, so it must have been serious.

I am usually kept in the dark about most things. My wife knows everything and will usually not tell me until it is too late for me to have an opinion. This daughter came home on a Tuesday and the wife told me on a Monday.

I am ok with this for two reasons: Readon 1: I don't care. Reason 2: I don't want to know.
Lanolin said:
Remember when I had that fight with my mum about her leaving the tv on and her baking trays in the lounge? Well the baking trays are still there...
The tv sometimes she does leave it on when she leaves the room but I don't really touch it anymore. Also, I moved my desk into my bedroom so that she would not complain Ieave the light on when I left it on the spare room as I was working there.

I remember that she actually got a timer to turn ON the lights for my brothers house when they were away from it to make it seem like someone was there at night lol.

Also, if you come to our house and look in the spare shower you'll find mum's stuff in there. Oh and we can't park the cars INSIDE the garage because of her stuff in there too. So they are outside, rusting a bit. I try to wax my car every so often to keep it nice. She said she had a right to keep her stuff.

Fair enough. Then my aunty was downsizing and gave her a lot of stuff too, so just put it in the garage, which we will never use. (But at least my bicycle can fit.and my bbq). just not a car. Dad's car is outside too.

My next door neighbours have five cars all parked in their driveway. They used their garage as a gym.
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I don't believe we have ever used a garage to park cars. I have all my wood working machines in the garage, our generator, all my tools, and the wife has seasonal decorations stored by season in big plastic containers.

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rtm3039 said:
I guess you would do whatever your new "owners" wanted you to do. As for your dad and the money, maybe buy a bigger house?

Rtm
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thats horrible.
Why would he buy a BIGGER house and sell me off??

I'd be devastated. My dad must really really hate me to even think of doing that.
 
Why a foreign prince, doesn't he want me anymore :-(
I don't think so.

Anyway, the foreign prince would probably just treat me like a maid amongst his many many many servants/harem.
 
I'm reading a book about 'town planning' or rather the history of urban design in New Zealand
It's very convoluted.

I think that there is a bit of tension between private and public or communal space. I think there needs to be both and people feel shortchanged if there are no things like gardens, parks, libraries, seating, playgrounds, place to walk and meet where anyone can go that belong to everyone. Hospitals and schools and swimming pools are also public amenities, accessible to all and free.

Likewise if people don't have the opportunity to have a private space to call their own, even if it's just one room, can impact their mental health.

Apparently, the cities of NZ were modelled on the 'garden city' approach or the 'city beautiful' models of the 1930s. The predominant pattern after the 1950s has been suburbs linked to amenities by private motorcars. (Thanks to the Model T Ford for this transformation). Before that, people walked or went about by tram, bus, or horses.

However, sitting in traffic is really not what people like to spend lots of time doing. Industrial areas were zoned separately because of the noise and pollution they made. Suburbs were places were husbands went to sleep and wives stayed home bringing up babies. I think that there needs to be a kind of rethink about 'work' since we have moved on from an industrial age where everyone worked in factories. A lot of people now can work from home because of technology - and 'cottage' industries often work better than having a huge base somewhere far away.

Also because of UBER people can make money out of their own car, if public transport isn't an option. I don't quite understand why people would need to own more than one car if the car has four seats sitting there empty! But maybe e-bikes and e-cars will cut down on the pollution.
 
Lanolin said:
I'm reading a book about 'town planning' or rather the history of urban design in New Zealand
It's very convoluted.

I think that there is a bit of tension between private and public or communal space. I think there needs to be both and people feel shortchanged if there are no things like gardens, parks, libraries, seating, playgrounds, place to walk and meet where anyone can go that belong to everyone. Hospitals and schools and swimming pools are also public amenities, accessible to all and free.

Likewise if people don't have the opportunity to have a private space to call their own, even if it's just one room, can impact their mental health.

Apparently, the cities of NZ were modelled on the 'garden city' approach or the 'city beautiful' models of the 1930s. The predominant pattern after the 1950s has been suburbs linked to amenities by private motorcars. (Thanks to the Model T Ford for this transformation). Before that, people walked or went about by tram, bus, or horses.

However, sitting in traffic is really not what people like to spend lots of time doing. Industrial areas were zoned separately because of the noise and pollution they made. Suburbs were places were husbands went to sleep and wives stayed home bringing up babies. I think that there needs to be a kind of rethink about 'work' since we have moved on from an industrial age where everyone worked in factories. A lot of people now can work from home because of technology - and 'cottage' industries often work better than having a huge base somewhere far away.

Also because of UBER people can make money out of their own car, if public transport isn't an option. I don't quite understand why people would need to own more than one car if the car has four seats sitting there empty! But maybe e-bikes and e-cars will cut down on the pollution.
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While the car might have "four seats" not everyone is going in the same direction. I go north to work at 6am. The wife goes south to work at 7:30am.

Also, technically speaking, it would not be "four seats there empty," as one would be occupied by the driver. :)
 
rtm3039 said:
While the car might have "four seats" not everyone is going in the same direction. I go north to work at 6am. The wife goes south to work at 7:30am.

Also, technically speaking, it would not be "four seats there empty," as one would be occupied by the driver. :)
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yea that seems a bit illogical.
If you both worked at home you wouldn't need to go anywhere lol.
Or took the bus, train or company carpool. Most cars have four seats empty cos there's the tiny middle seat. I know cos I was the middle child and had to sit there!

I quite liked the job where I got picked up from home. But the company ute was a bit of a gas guzzler. It would have been more economical to drive a van, especially in the urban area.
 
Lanolin said:
yea that seems a bit illogical.
If you both worked at home you wouldn't need to go anywhere lol.
Or took the bus, train or company carpool. Most cars have four seats empty cos there's the tiny middle seat. I know cos I was the middle child and had to sit there!

I quite liked the job where I got picked up from home. But the company ute was a bit of a gas guzzler. It would have been more economical to drive a van, especially in the urban area.
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The wife works too close to use public transportation, just not close enough to walk.

If I wanted to use public transportation, I would have to drive to the bus station, take the bus to the train station, take the train to the shuttle, then take the shuttle to the closest stop to the office, and then walk to the office.

Th other problem is that my job often times require me to travel to schools and I need a car for that.

We have an SUV:
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And I have a two-door version:

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oh rich peoples problems...
Yes those are SUVs. If you live out in the countryside they make sense but not in the city. In Auckland we call those Remuera tractors. They block streets, guzzle gas and are a bit of a weird status symbol for the people that own them.

Not saying thats you, but why would you even have one in an urban area. They are designed for off-road use. If you had to transport children you'd take the bus or a people mover. Also SUVs are dangerous because of the height, a lot of them have run over small children when backing out of a driveway cos the driver can't see. Although some have cameras installed in the back, still. They don't make a lot of sense.
 
Lanolin said:
oh rich peoples problems...
Yes those are SUVs. If you live out in the countryside they make sense but not in the city. In Auckland we call those Remuera tractors. They block streets, guzzle gas and are a bit of a weird status symbol for the people that own them.

Not saying thats you, but why would you even have one in an urban area. They are designed for off-road use. If you had to transport children you'd take the bus or a people mover. Also SUVs are dangerous because of the height, a lot of them have run over small children when backing out of a driveway cos the driver can't see. Although some have cameras installed in the back, still. They don't make a lot of sense.
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I have had a jeep since the late 1970s. I just like them. Do not do much off road driving, but it's there if I need (or want) to. I just like the way they look.

I have also gotten use to sitting high off the road. It is also comfortable for my back, as I can get in or out with little effort at bending down.

They do suck up gas, that I have to admit.

Rtm
 
I have a toyota fun cargo, its basically a box on wheels, but its not a huge gas guzzling SUV.
I remember flatting and my flatmate had a SUV and her boyfriend also had one, but she spent so much money on gas, that it wasn't worth it, but I couldn't tell her she'd made a silly mistake. She told me later that she wished she had a smaller car.

I guess some people are more into looks than sense.
I used to clean a big house in Remeura and the lady, who was divorced, said it was way too big. By that time her 2 adult children were leaving home and they just had way too much space. But she was American (from Manhattan) and said that was the American dream to have everything big. It took all day to clean that house.

I liked earning money though, but...you know, thats just me being a maid again. Thats why I would reject a foreign Princes offer of a large library and garden. I have worked in large libraries and large gardens. They are a beast to maintain on your own.
 
The American lady sold her house and moved down to Napier to live the hippie lifestyle. I went back to Remuera there once to see the house I cleaned years ago just from the outside. It's still there though someone else owns it obviously.
I don't know if the billionaire who bought 9 properties would have bought that one.
I don't covet other peoples homes though I cleaned and gardened some of them.
 
Lanolin said:
I have a toyota fun cargo, its basically a box on wheels, but its not a huge gas guzzling SUV.
I remember flatting and my flatmate had a SUV and her boyfriend also had one, but she spent so much money on gas, that it wasn't worth it, but I couldn't tell her she'd made a silly mistake. She told me later that she wished she had a smaller car.

I guess some people are more into looks than sense.
I used to clean a big house in Remeura and the lady, who was divorced, said it was way too big. By that time her 2 adult children were leaving home and they just had way too much space. But she was American (from Manhattan) and said that was the American dream to have everything big. It took all day to clean that house.

I liked earning money though, but...you know, thats just me being a maid again. Thats why I would reject a foreign Princes offer of a large library and garden. I have worked in large libraries and large gardens. They are a beast to maintain on your own.
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Jeeps are inexpensive and seriously keep their value over time. I traded in my 2002 in 2016 and got $8,000 in the trade.

And, as far as I know, everyone considers looks as part of the decision making process to buy a vehicle. No one says "Hey, I'll take that car . . . the ugly looking one."

Rtm
 
Really...you don't know many people then!
Some people just need something that goes.

If you are a collector yes, but most people use their cars for transport, not for show.
 
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