Tired of boomers

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My parents died, never having been able to afford their own home. They lived in the same apartment for over 30 years, until I retired from the military, purchased a home, and moved them in with us. My mon passed in my house. My dad was not able to do that, as he needed oxygen and we had him an an ALF a couple of blocks from the house.

You want crazy? The below is an active rental in Miami Beach. How to you fit 2 bedrooms, a bath, kitchen, and living room in 900 sq ft?

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Ray

I can relate Ray. My mom and my dad died in my home.

My dads house was 600 sq. ft. 2 bedrooms, 1 bath, eat in kitchen.
 
Why don't we just call baby boomers all 'babes'. lol
" Boomer" is what younger people say when they want to dismiss boomers as being out of touch or stuck in our boomer ways, sort of this generation's version of "If you say so, old-timer." It's not exactly an ageist insult, but it sure ain't a compliment........is it?

But that is OK. I actually do get get it. Have fun with it.

But remember one thing before slinging insults: The world, according to Harvard psychology professor Steven Pinker (and many others), is better off now than it's been at any time in history. That's right. Ever. And I contend it's because of boomers. Boomers are the greatest generation the world has ever known. The most innovative. The most caring. The hardest-working. That may seem a bit much, but to quote the pitcher Dizzy Dean, "It ain't bragging if you can back it up."
Source: https://www.newsweek.com/2020/03/13...-are-greatest-generation-history-1490819.html

Fact:
Over the next 30 years, boomers will pass down $68 trillion as part of the "Great Wealth Transfer." That should cover it for many borrowers (the timing may suck, though).

Politics:
Joe Biden and Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell? We had Richard Nixon, George Wallace, Lester Maddox and Richard Daley.

Millennials complain about the fact that boomers get an outsized proportion of government benefits such as Social Security and Medicare, what some call boomer socialism? Well, that's true—but would millennials rather we went back to the old system where the older generation lived with their adult kids who cared for them because they could not afford to own a home?

The real bottom line truth is that EVERY generation faces problems. Every generation faces existential crises.

You think the bubonic plague and AIDS weren't existential crises?
Korean War?
How about Hitler?
Or communism?
Vietnam War?
Boomers lived under the very real threat of a nuclear war that would have killed everything and turned the planet into a ball of ice.
In 1962, Rachel Carson wrote Silent Spring about the global poisoning caused by pesticides.
In 1968, professor Paul Ehrlich of Stanford wrote The Population Bomb, which predicted worldwide famine in the 1970s and 1980s.
And in 1972, the Club of Rome published The Limits to Growth, which predicted that the world would begin running out of resources by 2008.

Before 1962 , almost a million people world wide starved each year. Since? About 200,000 a year!

The U.S. median household income of 100% totally disabled veterans who had Baby Boomer children in 1950 was $4,237.

The median household income today in the USA for "Millennials is $65,000.

My suggestion is.......get your facts straight then complain!
 
Wondering what Boomers think of 'tiny homes' now, hopefully they are not mocking the younger generation for at least trying to have some space of their own.

I don't think I could live in one for long, but if needs must you would do it I suppose. Living in a one room home can have its good points but also a few drawbacks I can think of.

Paul didn't seem to have these problems because he was a tent-maker, but he lived and did missions in the mediterranean area which is considerably drier and warmer than many other parts of the world. I don't know when the concepts of mortgages and such came about, but maybe the Romans are to blame for the present system of indoor plumbing and all.
Can't speak for all Boomers, but I find the concept intriguing, especially for a single person or a couple; they are a little too small (IMHO) for raising a family. A tiny home forces one to prioritize what they need in life and reduces the cost of living, enabling one to save money for the future (hopefully). An older person might find a tiny home not only economical, but easier to manage - less to clean and maintain. I think a person would need to find ways of getting out and about for some air and exercise to combat claustrophobia, but getting air and exercise is good for a person in any size home. A lot depends on design and construction. I would want at least one large window for light and to decrease the sense of confinement by having a view outside.
 
I earned my bachelor's degree, while a young man in the military. It took me 10 years. I started while stationed at Fort Campbell, KY and ended during my second tour to Germany.
I started my bachelor's degree in 1971 and after a career in the military, I finally graduated in 1998, 27 years after I started. The good news is that I finished my master's degree just 6 years after that.
 
Can't speak for all Boomers, but I find the concept intriguing, especially for a single person or a couple; they are a little too small (IMHO) for raising a family. A tiny home forces one to prioritize what they need in life and reduces the cost of living, enabling one to save money for the future (hopefully). An older person might find a tiny home not only economical, but easier to manage - less to clean and maintain. I think a person would need to find ways of getting out and about for some air and exercise to combat claustrophobia, but getting air and exercise is good for a person in any size home. A lot depends on design and construction. I would want at least one large window for light and to decrease the sense of confinement by having a view outside.
I only know one person who opted for a tiny home and she wasn't of my generation she was actually a boomer. She sold it recently because she was getting on and ended up staying with friends. It couldn't be hooked up to power and water without violating council code for some reason and could only be moved onto an existing property. If it was on wheels it would have been fine but they have some rules against permanent dwellings.

Trailers and caravans are notoriously cold in winter.

I read another memoir about a lady who built one and lived with her dog in it. She had to have it on some other person's property and use their toilet. (All I can think of was...what, you choose to live in the dogs kennel?) Then she wrote all about how she missed sharing a flat with her friends. She had previously actually owned that place but gave it up to build her own tiny house.

I don't think they are as great as some people make them out to be, but apparently is a trend for richer people who want their own place but not too rich that they can afford their own property. Bourgeoise people I think they are? Or hipsters. Hipsters are actually the most despised type of generation x people! Even more than boomers, boomers complain about younger generation, but hipsters sneer at everything. They rebel and conform at the same time and it gets very confusing about the things they value.
 
I only know one person who opted for a tiny home and she wasn't of my generation she was actually a boomer. She sold it recently because she was getting on and ended up staying with friends. It couldn't be hooked up to power and water without violating council code for some reason and could only be moved onto an existing property. If it was on wheels it would have been fine but they have some rules against permanent dwellings.

Trailers and caravans are notoriously cold in winter.

I read another memoir about a lady who built one and lived with her dog in it. She had to have it on some other person's property and use their toilet. (All I can think of was...what, you choose to live in the dogs kennel?) Then she wrote all about how she missed sharing a flat with her friends. She had previously actually owned that place but gave it up to build her own tiny house.

I don't think they are as great as some people make them out to be, but apparently is a trend for richer people who want their own place but not too rich that they can afford their own property. Bourgeoise people I think they are? Or hipsters. Hipsters are actually the most despised type of generation x people! Even more than boomers, boomers complain about younger generation, but hipsters sneer at everything. They rebel and conform at the same time and it gets very confusing about the things they value.
Once our kids grew up and went away, the wife and I downsized from a 5 bedroom house to a 3 bedroom house. That took a little getting use to. When we retire, we will again move. This time to another state. We will probably stay with the 3 bedroom thing, because we have gotten use to the space.

I have grown used to having a home office, so one bedroom will go to that. The wife hangs out in the kitchen, so a large kitchen is probably what she will look for. All of her family is like that. When we go to Memphis for Christmas, as many as 10 - 20 people fit in my sister-in-law's kitchen, which is one of the biggest rooms in the house.

Rtm

During the lockdown, the extra space was nice, as was a large backyard and pool. It probably kept us from going crazy being locked up. I don't personally like pools, but my wife practically lives in it and her friends and their kids have gotten good use of it.
 
Once our kids grew up and went away, the wife and I downsized from a 5 bedroom house to a 3 bedroom house. That took a little getting use to. When we retire, we will again move. This time to another state. We will probably stay with the 3 bedroom thing, because we have gotten use to the space.

I have grown used to having a home office, so one bedroom will go to that. The wife hangs out in the kitchen, so a large kitchen is probably what she will look for. All of her family is like that. When we go to Memphis for Christmas, as many as 10 - 20 people fit in my sister-in-law's kitchen, which is one of the biggest rooms in the house.

Rtm

During the lockdown, the extra space was nice, as was a large backyard and pool. It probably kept us from going crazy being locked up. I don't personally like pools, but my wife practically lives in it and her friends and their kids have gotten good use of it.
sounds like you live the luxe life Rtm. Our neighbours used to have pools but they all got pulled out because of the high cost of maintaining them. One of our neighbours subdivided and another house was put where the pool used to be. It only got used during summer as it's not really hot enough here to use all year round.

I reckon 4-5 bedrooms is ok for large family, 3 bedrooms is a normal size home. 2 bedroom for couples or singles.

I was reading in one of the property listings in the paper (one of the biggest supplements, and it's almost daily, everyone likes to auction their houses here) that open plan living was actually harder in lockdown because it drove people crazy to be sharing the same space all the time.
Open plan meaning your kitchen, dining and lounge and patio are all the same space. Larger, newer houses have that. I don't think that really works for everyone.

Some of the problems are that some bedrooms are so small in homes with lots of bedrooms that you can only fit one bed in and nothing else, not even a closet. Also some houses got so big (mcmansion type houses) that there was very little outdoor space to have a garden.

I remember quite a few friends who just lived in the garage. Or sleepout. Separate but still on same property. They would smell of car fumes, or if it was a basement they grew very pale, from lack of sunlight but generally teens just don't like to live in the same space as their parents. I know others that live in the attic.
 
Do most people just move according to how big a home they can have or are they not somehow tied to the land where they will look after it for future generations to come? I guess state loyalty doesn't count for much in the US. It makes americans seem more like hermit crabs than permanent dwellers.

I was thinking how when people first emigrated to the US, those from the east came through New York and just lived in tenements and slums, although they had actually emigrated to get AWAY from the tenemants and slums in the first place. I think there was only a slim window of time when pioneers could actually lay claim to a piece of land, which at first the govt was GIVING away. People would hear there was free land up for claims and rush to get theirs first. They had no idea that it wasn't actually really given to them at all, it was kind of stolen from the Native Americans through trickery and bribery.
 
sounds like you live the luxe life Rtm. Our neighbours used to have pools but they all got pulled out because of the high cost of maintaining them. One of our neighbours subdivided and another house was put where the pool used to be. It only got used during summer as it's not really hot enough here to use all year round.

I reckon 4-5 bedrooms is ok for large family, 3 bedrooms is a normal size home. 2 bedroom for couples or singles.

I was reading in one of the property listings in the paper (one of the biggest supplements, and it's almost daily, everyone likes to auction their houses here) that open plan living was actually harder in lockdown because it drove people crazy to be sharing the same space all the time.
Open plan meaning your kitchen, dining and lounge and patio are all the same space. Larger, newer houses have that. I don't think that really works for everyone.

Some of the problems are that some bedrooms are so small in homes with lots of bedrooms that you can only fit one bed in and nothing else, not even a closet. Also some houses got so big (mcmansion type houses) that there was very little outdoor space to have a garden.

I remember quite a few friends who just lived in the garage. Or sleepout. Separate but still on same property. They would smell of car fumes, or if it was a basement they grew very pale, from lack of sunlight but generally teens just don't like to live in the same space as their parents. I know others that live in the attic.
Hey, it's south Florida. It is almost impossible to find a house in my neighborhood that does not have a pool. Personally, I do not know of any.
 
Do most people just move according to how big a home they can have or are they not somehow tied to the land where they will look after it for future generations to come? I guess state loyalty doesn't count for much in the US. It makes americans seem more like hermit crabs than permanent dwellers.

I was thinking how when people first emigrated to the US, those from the east came through New York and just lived in tenements and slums, although they had actually emigrated to get AWAY from the tenemants and slums in the first place. I think there was only a slim window of time when pioneers could actually lay claim to a piece of land, which at first the govt was GIVING away. People would hear there was free land up for claims and rush to get theirs first. They had no idea that it wasn't actually really given to them at all, it was kind of stolen from the Native Americans through trickery and bribery.
I have friends who have lived in the same place most of their lives. In out case it is different. While I grew up here in Miami, I left home when I was 18 and did not come back (aside from vising my parents) for over 30 years. We moved back to Miami, because I had family here and my wife is a serious "beach bunny." Besides, growing up, we lived in an apartment (my parents were never able to afford a house), so no real ties there either.

Now, my parents are both gone and I have no other family in the area. All of our kids have moved on and do not live in Florida. My wife grew up in Memphis and has most of her family there. We have kids/grandkids in Texas, Missouri, and Tennessee. Memphis is centrally located, so it will be easier for more frequent visits than just once a year. Also, the cost of living in Tennessee is about 33% less, so our retirement money will go much further. Our home here in Miami is valued at something like $450,000 - $500,000. The same home, in Tennessee, is closer to $200,000. Also, insurance here in south Florida is insane and is around $24,000 a year. We not only have to have regular home owners insurance, but we also have to have a special insurance (wind and hail) which is required for anyone that lives close to the ocean.
 
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