Sure, there use to be, here in America a popular bumper sticker that said, “He who dies with the most toys, wins.
Same mentality, same source…pride.
Bullying...why?
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Same mentality, same source…pride.
There are lots and lots of sports that NZ participates in, half the news is taken up with who played who every single day.
TAB is a big thing here, where people bet on races and sports and who will win. And it's state run.
You can pretty much bet on anything...it's a billion dollar industry.
Agreed Bob. Having played sports all my life..........I can tell you and everyone else that "Pride" is the motivating factor in all of life.
If we play on any team the coach will always instill pride as the reason to practice hard to do well.
We work hard to do a good job because we take pride in what we do.
When we watch our children and grandchildren play in a game.....we tell everyone around us that that one there who scored that point is MY child.
When we watch or participate in a sports game and it seems as if there is a bullying going on it is not. That shoving and punching and yelling is nothing more than excitement and enthusiasm running wild because of the competition of the game.
Personally I do not think that pride has anything to do with a bully.
IMO a bully comes from many factors one of which is bad parenting. Another reason is puberty. Raging hormones in an undisciplined child is a disaster.
Also, I am convinced that Electronic communication is a contributing factor to bullying, but not just because it makes it easier to bully but because Electronic communication is more informal and less empathetic, and our them may be impeding the development of important person-to-person social skills.
Take this web site as an example. People say things here on a computer that they would never say to anyone face to face. Ambiguity breeds contempt's which produces a need to be more aggressive than you are able to normally be. That is what a bully does!
I was making a PD (professional development) page for my teachers on the library website.
I came across a sports page for coaches and teachers run by a partner of Sport NZ. It was saying 'Balance is better'. The reasoning was that young people especially teens are dropping out of sport because parents and coaches are being bullies plus it's way too competitive. The site was then advocating for better ways of getting children into sport because frankly, it's just not fun for them.
The bully never counts on the victim to desert them. They NEED their target to be around to fight.
I came across a sports page for coaches and teachers run by a partner of Sport NZ. It was saying 'Balance is better'. The reasoning was that young people especially teens are dropping out of sport because parents and coaches are being bullies plus it's way too competitive. The site was then advocating for better ways of getting children into sport because frankly, it's just not fun for them.
The bully never counts on the victim to desert them. They NEED their target to be around to fight.
Hello Major;
My Dad introduced me to baseball in 1965 and played Little and Senior League for 7 years. Later I managed the Seniors (13-15) and my last year the youngest league called T-Ball (6-7 years old) for 6 years.
The pride you talk about is a good pride. The coach taught us fair play, everyone from the bench to the starting players learned to play as one team. The intent was to win the game but accept a loss as good sportsmanship. Most of all baseball or most sports included having fun.
The bullying part on a professional level is when the opposing team is so much superior and will run the score up, degrading the losing team on national tv. Good professional football and basketball games will merely run out the clock.
You mentioned bullying comes from a factor of bad parenting and puberty. I was there from both sides. As a player I understood why some kids never wanted to play or compete again and this impacts their growing years.
But as manager I had to deal with temperamental parents that took the game way too serious and overprotected their son from the coach or umpire. When I umpired I had to take abuse from unruly managers. One that I remember, I had to kick him out of the game and make him leave the ballpark before we could proceed with the game.
I agree what you shared regarding websites as a platform are notorious for bullies, basically cowards who hide behind their keyboard unloading so much disrespect, berating and cursing another human being. That's easy.
It's hard to respect another's civil opinion with Love, acceptance and representing Christ. It's hard but it's worth it, even when competing in sports.
Hello Lanolin;
Good for Sports NZ and the development page pushes back on bullies by educating kids and all ages who want to play or enter sports as a profession. At least someone is doing something about it.
I don't think bullying happens because of puberty because younger kids who hadn't even reached puberty yet DO bully those even younger and weaker than them!
I see it happen in schools where the children are aged 5-11.
Bad parenting I might agree is a factor but even more so LACK of parenting as well.
I see it happen in schools where the children are aged 5-11.
Bad parenting I might agree is a factor but even more so LACK of parenting as well.
On the news recently there were reports of banning parents from sports because they were bullying their own children.
Coaches might have high standards but they do put the pressure on. It's just not fun for the children. https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018783989/changing-the-bullying-culture-in-sport
I guess good sportsmanship and fair play isn't really taught these days, when money gets involved.
Children then pick it up from their parent's poor attitudes, as well as a sort of snobbery where many think they are superior to others, whether it's because their parents earn more or are priveliged or whatever, or just simply because they are bigger. A lot of parents still have racist attitudes from back in the dark ages where people think skin colour matters, which is a holdover from social darwinism. Taken to extremes people who think this way subscribe to 'survival of the fittest' and wouldn't think twice about practising eugenics.
Coaches might have high standards but they do put the pressure on. It's just not fun for the children. https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018783989/changing-the-bullying-culture-in-sport
I guess good sportsmanship and fair play isn't really taught these days, when money gets involved.
Children then pick it up from their parent's poor attitudes, as well as a sort of snobbery where many think they are superior to others, whether it's because their parents earn more or are priveliged or whatever, or just simply because they are bigger. A lot of parents still have racist attitudes from back in the dark ages where people think skin colour matters, which is a holdover from social darwinism. Taken to extremes people who think this way subscribe to 'survival of the fittest' and wouldn't think twice about practising eugenics.
They tried to bully me in school also, but I was smarter than them
Something pickled or canned can mean bullied.
"Bully for you" is similar to saying 'good for you'.
You bullied some corn beef, bully for you!
"Bully for you" is similar to saying 'good for you'.
You bullied some corn beef, bully for you!
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I've heard of the expression 'bully for you'
But I thought maybe people misheard or mispronounced 'boiled' and thought it was 'bullied' as in 'I bullied some water'.
Of course there is what is called 'beef bouillon', but we ought not to bully our way there...
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Been reading this thread
Bullying was also rife in the private school I worked in.
The Primary Principal did not thing to stop it, in fact the Principals encouraged it. When there was a fight in the library, the Primary Principal blamed me when she could have stepped in and stopped it.
Been reading this thread
Bullying was also rife in the private school I worked in.
The Primary Principal did not thing to stop it, in fact the Principals encouraged it. When there was a fight in the library, the Primary Principal blamed me when she could have stepped in and stopped it.
Without engaging in a lot of psychological mumbo-jumbo, I'll keep it simple. Bullies bully because they are human predators; they prey upon victims for their own satisfaction. They are like cats with mice and other smaller prey, and a good many of them have the same sociopathic properties as the house cats.
It's a fact of nature in the animal kingdom that predators don't prey on animals that present a danger to themselves. I made sure that my son was never bullied; I placed him in martial arts training when he entered kindergarten. When he was 7 years old, he received his black belt. One fellow student in elementary school tried to physically bully him, and he put the culprit on the floor with a single leg sweep. That ended that, and he was never again bullied during the remainder of his academic career.
It's essentially the way of the world, but should not be the way of Christians.