Exactly the point!
Could you be a cult leader?
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Exactly the point!
Hm. I just re-read our comment about overtime.
Since I am a salaried employee, I don't get overtime or comp time. If I did, not sure the school could afford it
It is totally the other way around with my investigators. As part of their union contract, they can't be asked to work 1 minute past their schedule, without either overtime or comp time. My guys work from 7am to 3pm. If I were to send them an e-mail at 3:01pm on a Friday and told them the world was ending Monday morning, they would not read the e-mail until Monday morning. They do not answer their phone after 3pm, return text messages, or anything else.
Rtm
Hey Ray........where you been brother?
Working myself into an early grave...
Worked most of Saturday and now, back from church, back at it.
I am in conflict with reality. Everyone agrees that my current work issues are serious. It has been suggested that I let it break to show the problem, but I am just not built that way and continue to try and stay an inch above water.
In a year where my personnel issues have not stopped, we are also seeing an unexpected rise in investigations. As of this last Friday, we are 132% above what we were this same time last year (88 investigations last year, 204 this year).
three more years to retirement and it's about time.
Ray
I checked with someone in our church leadership and I was right. Oversight comes from out board members. I have only seen this once. The director of security that we used to have did something wrong (not sure what it was). He was physically escorted out of church property.
see my new thread "https://christianforumsite.com/threads/could-a-4-hour-work-week-work.59413/
please contribute if you can.
If I recall (cos I was reading some books about Jim Jones early this year) what happened was the Peoples Temple split off from the Church of Christ that Jones was ordained in, and so he really was only nominally part of them at first.
They did have a church board (of yes men) but they couldn't do anything much because that board wasn't connected to any others, he'd started an offshoot and branched off.
They were originally in Indianapolis, then moved to San Francisco, and then to Guyana. I'm supposing if things get a bit suss its easy for a cult to just move to another state, then to another country where the laws are different. At the time, Jones was wanted on child custody charges (he'd fathered some children illegitamately or something, I forget what, he had many wives/lovers) so that was one of the reasons he'd split out of the country where the long arm of the law couldn't reach him.
I do not recall the details, but I do recall being at work when the news first broke out. I suspect that many of those that drank (909) did so out of duress. It is also interesting to note that Jones did not drink himself, but shot himself.
Hang in there brother! If you need to keep your head above the water......stand on a stool!!!
Absolutley horrific, before 9/11 it was the most US civilian deaths in one day. The followers who didn't drink, stabbed or shot each other, only a few managed to escape. Children died too.
I think ppl forget that when people die, somebody has to identify and clean up/bury the dead bodies.
I think ppl forget that when people die, somebody has to identify and clean up/bury the dead bodies.
Hello Lanolin;
When the cult of Jim Jones' suicide happened in 1978 I was living in San Diego. I remember being at home and reading the newspaper's front page when I learned of this horrific mass suicide. At first Jones was very charismatic with "his followers" but through the years he became very influential with San Francisco politics. He mixed religion with politics.
I was 21 years old at the time and attended a church where we led the praise and worship every Sunday. I personally felt so safe at our church but after Jim Jones' mass suicide, I asked our pastor about the incident and he couldn't answer why. It was to him, a very strange happening that occured with the People's Temple.
I remember hearing about the Branch Davidians having a siege in Waco Texas in the 1990s. To me that was strange.
I've always been somewhat of a freethinker...nobody can really tell me or force me to think in a certain way, which is why I suppose, having followers would be anathema to me if everyone thought like I did and had no thoughts of their own.
Nor can I assume that others are thinking the same things as I do. I always question if I don't understand something. It's not wrong to ask questions or a sign of a lack of trust. I think God welcomes questions - after all He does have all the answers. He might not tell us them all at once so as not to overwhelm us mere humans though. Even God's thoughts are not our thoughts.
I've always been somewhat of a freethinker...nobody can really tell me or force me to think in a certain way, which is why I suppose, having followers would be anathema to me if everyone thought like I did and had no thoughts of their own.
Nor can I assume that others are thinking the same things as I do. I always question if I don't understand something. It's not wrong to ask questions or a sign of a lack of trust. I think God welcomes questions - after all He does have all the answers. He might not tell us them all at once so as not to overwhelm us mere humans though. Even God's thoughts are not our thoughts.
I'm sorry Mods. I would never intentionally hurt someone. I don't recall what it said before.
Thank you.
Don’t worry. We know you wouldn’t.
It’s just part of forum policy not to name groups as there could be a backlash.
We have had “group crusades” on here in the past and it took all of the mods strength to put things right.
So don’t worry.
Thank you,sister,
The week I spent away has caused me to forget much. I'm afraid some good might have been thrown out with the trash.....lol
Did you ever read Kingdom of the Cults, my Walter Martin?
If my memory is correct, I seem to recall that Jones, who was actually a closet homosexual and was arrested in 1973 after allegedly making sexual advances to an undercover police officer in the men's room of a Los Angeles theater. To escape prosecution and bad press he decided to leave the U.S. altogether, and establish a utopian agricultural commune in South America that led to 1000 people dying for no reason.
The above is now!