The Reason the Church is Floundering....

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Getting back to the OP. I highly doubt the lack of foot washing is why the Church is floundering.
Perhaps something closer to the truth, is that the Church has tendency to major on the minors and minor on the majors.
 
Getting back to the OP. I highly doubt the lack of foot washing is why the Church is floundering.
Perhaps something closer to the truth, is that the Church has tendency to major on the minors and minor on the majors.
i was not suggesting that on foot washing.. the church floundering is several things. and not just one certain thing . i think Christ said it best John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. our flesh can get in/hinder the things of God
 
if done in the right spirit it is holy

I have read all the inputs on this foot washing thought.

John 13:14.....
“If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another’s feet.”

However, as is often the case, when one reads the verse before or after, he finds information and/or clarification that helps with a proper understanding. In this case, the verse after, “For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you.” And then the next, “Most assuredly I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master, not is he who is sent greater that he who sent him.”

May I add that from the actual Scriptures we find Jesus is not enjoining foot washing as an ordinance, but rather as an example of achieving true greatness by serving others through humility. This can be done through any act whereby one shows himself as a servant in the image of Jesus Christ.
 
we find Jesus is not enjoining foot washing as an ordinance
i have never claimed it as a ordinance. it is of choice as it is symbolic just like communion many of the ones i have been in has been humble and spiritual. a quick share of a foot washing my wife was in men in one room /women in another done decent and in order. another woman washed her young daughter feet after drying them of the mom kissed her on her feet. Gross unsanitary ? ask the mother... a elder mother/g ma great gma. watched it broke down crying as she had just lost her daughter to liver failure from years drinking.
she shared just as her daughter was on the verge of passing. sit up in bed and said jesus loves me this i know. i am not saying this was a sign she went to heaven.. we dont have that call . but how ever she was raised in church. just chose the party life in early years . all i am saying is from all accounts what my wife told me. the anointing was in that foot washing..
my other point the things we so often discount as not usable or what ever words we want to use. God chose the foolish things to confound the wise . i am not kicking your post as it belongs to you as your thoughts. i have had this discussion in other forums. only they was %100 opposed
 
i have never claimed it as a ordinance. it is of choice as it is symbolic just like communion many of the ones i have been in has been humble and spiritual. a quick share of a foot washing my wife was in men in one room /women in another done decent and in order. another woman washed her young daughter feet after drying them of the mom kissed her on her feet. Gross unsanitary ? ask the mother... a elder mother/g ma great gma. watched it broke down crying as she had just lost her daughter to liver failure from years drinking.
she shared just as her daughter was on the verge of passing. sit up in bed and said jesus loves me this i know. i am not saying this was a sign she went to heaven.. we dont have that call . but how ever she was raised in church. just chose the party life in early years . all i am saying is from all accounts what my wife told me. the anointing was in that foot washing..
my other point the things we so often discount as not usable or what ever words we want to use. God chose the foolish things to confound the wise . i am not kicking your post as it belongs to you as your thoughts. i have had this discussion in other forums. only they was %100 opposed

I understand and I did not say that you did brother. I said that it is simply not a requirement and is a personal choice.
 
I agree....but again that is "not" a command. Blessed does not mean..."do this".
i am not interested in it being a command - but if a person is so closed mind about it, they can miss out on a blessing . but this day and age foot washing is pretty much out the door
 
i am not interested in it being a command - but if a person is so closed mind about it, they can miss out on a blessing . but this day and age foot washing is pretty much out the door

One of the reason that it may not be popular is that the Roman Catholic Church on Maundy Thursday of Holy Week. The Protestant church does not want to be seen doing anything that the Catholic church does.

Another thought is that washing feet in those days was an act of hospitality or personal hygiene.

When the Scriptures are studied that is the pattern seen in each of of those Scriptures. This makes sense in that land where people often traveled by foot, wearing sandals, walking in hot, dusty sand. Washing the feet was done to comfort guests, meet their needs, and welcome them. When one person did it for others, it was considered a menial task of service.

It was not a ritual done as an act of worship. People had a physical need, just like they might need food or a place to spend the night. Hospitality involved providing whatever would meet that need.

It also follows that there was no purpose in washing the feet of those whose feet were clean. Such people would not need their feet washed.

Personally I think it would be helpful to remember that in none of the Bible cases was washing of feet a worship ritual done in the context of worship meetings.

It was an individual act done as an act of hospitality to visitors.

Just a thought!
 
One of the reason that it may not be popular is that the Roman Catholic Church on Maundy Thursday of Holy Week. The Protestant church does not want to be seen doing anything that the Catholic church does.
to be honest i dont know a whole lot about the r.c .c . i have been told hunting easter eggs is a pagan celebration. Christmas trees idol to be worshiped .... my feelings on the matter as long as i teach the truth about easter Christmas etc. then kids can have fun. this is why i say foot washing done in the right spirit i have took communion in a dry service
 
there are blessings in anything we do being led of the spirit

Colossians 3:23-24
23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ... we can do it for show or if we chose to do it we do it from the heart ..there is the Blessings i give money to the Church .but i have yet to be blessed finically as with great excess of money. this is the point what kind of blessing are we/you looking for ? blessings come in many different ways .imo a blessing can be the satisfaction .that we did it for the right reason .. not to be seen of men


 
I mean for example there is a blessing attached to Baptism and the Lord's Supper but no such blessing attached to foot washing by our Lord.
. i took the time and explained a blessing you see no need in foot washing i do BTW can you describe the blessing in baptism and the Lord supper . not that i dont agree there is same as footwashing if done in the right manner. would you say the gma was blessed seeing a mother wash her daughters feet or is that just a fleshly reaction
 
BTW can you describe the blessing in baptism and the Lord supper .
Baptism...

Mark 16:16 (NASB)
"He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.

Lord's Supper...

Matthew 26:26-28 (KJV)
And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

I just don't see these type of promises tied to foot washing.
 
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